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bayloriffic

Hey, guess what I want to talk about?

Feb 25, 2011 14:43

So. How about those V spoilers for the next episode?

I am obvs super-excited for incredibly shallow reasons, but I also really like the direction this seems to be taking Erica's character. From some of the comments I've read in various places, this...is not a popular opinion. But I adore it and here's why: ( spoilers for the next episode only; warning, may be slightly tl;dr )

v, i watch too much tv

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scandaloussteph February 25 2011, 19:57:23 UTC

Can I get away with just saying thisI don't know if I really have an opinion on this scene yet, so I feel like I've just been agreeing left and right today ( ... )

bayloriffic February 25 2011, 20:07:00 UTC

I seriously don't get the logic that Hobbes killed Joe. Because he didn't. Yeah, what he did was terrible and played a part in Joe's death, but so did Erica pretending to be a hostage (and so did Joe's weird need to keep standing upright during the shoot-out. WTF was that? I almost felt like someone that dumb deserved to get shot).

I guess I just don't see how Erica can agree with Jack's methods and still win/lead the 5th column. Jack could change, but I don't see that happening either. At this point, unless the show's moving towards Erica giving up her position as leader of the resistance, I can more likely see a Hobbes redemption than Erica's values aligning with Jack's.

I mean, it's HOT. And it's not illogical. Both Erica and Hobbes are broken right now, so seeking comfort with a very hot and very willing other person makes perfect sense to me.
I really like the way the scene is played, the hesitation, her slamming him into a wall, that thing LizMitch seems to do with her hands on a dude's face when things get heated.I AGREE ( ... )

lormats February 25 2011, 20:58:24 UTC

jumping into the wagon to say that I love you both and your way of expressing your thoughts... I just go no but he's not guilty, yeah but no, but, ugh and go sit in a corner mad for not being able to express myself.

don't mind me keep talking.

scandaloussteph February 25 2011, 21:20:40 UTC

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airbefore February 25 2011, 21:34:04 UTC

Hobbes isn't responsible for Joe's death and I think, after an initial bout of blame and recriminations, Erica will realize that. Was he a factor in the chain of events? Yes, he was but is he is in absolutely no way the sole reason Joe is dead. And Joe's death wasn't the only reason Tyler turned to Anna. It may have been the straw but, dude, that camel was already more than 3/4 of the way to a broken back. Erica and Hobbes understand each other on a level that the other characters just can't reach; they are broken in the same ways. It makes perfect sense that they would turn to each other for solace and boot knocking.

Plus, it's crazy hot.

the way Erica keeps saying sorry, sorry, sorry while she rips off Hobbes's shirt
I don't know why but that freaking makes my heart flutter. Unf.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go watch this a few more times and alternate between enjoying it for what it is and pretending that Hobbes is Sawyer and Erica is Juliet. Yes, I am that pathetic.

bayloriffic February 25 2011, 21:56:32 UTC

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go watch this a few more times and alternate between enjoying it for what it is and pretending that Hobbes is Sawyer and Erica is Juliet. Yes, I am that pathetic.

You and me both, my friend. I have watched it SO MANY TIMES and I keep thinking, "augh, why couldn't this be Sawyer" every.single.time.

I really don't get the reasoning by some people that Hobbes is responsible for all of Erica's suffering. Like he personally shot Joe and then had a talk with Tyler urging him to fly V ships and be a dick to his mom. Ugh, IDEK. He's for sure a part of what happened, but by no means the only reason for the shit that went down.

Plus, broken people being broken together is MY FAVORITE THING THE WORLD. Especially when it turns out as unbelievably hot as this scene is. (Also: I really hope that it keeps going and they both don't like pull away and decide they're making a mistake or something lame like that. Hopefully, the lack of shirts means they've reached the point of no return.)

airbefore February 25 2011, 22:03:12 UTC

Hopefully, the lack of shirts means they've reached the point of no return.
I think that the removal of shirts is definitely the line of demarcation between being able to stop and pretend it didn't happen and having crazy hot angst sex on top of a table.

I have watched it SO MANY TIMES and I keep thinking, "augh, why couldn't this be Sawyer" every.single.time.
It doesn't help that EM puts her hand on CM's face in the EXACT SAME WAY Juliet does to Sawyer in the finale.

Holy shit, they are hot together, L. I DON'T EVEN HAVE WORDS FOR THEIR LEVEL OF HOTNESS. It's like brain-to-jelly hot. UNF.

pengyn February 25 2011, 22:42:41 UTC

It doesn't help that EM puts her hand on CM's face in the EXACT SAME WAY Juliet does to Sawyer in the finale

It also doesn't help that the way she puts her hand underneath CM's while he's holding the photograph is the EXACT same move Juliet does with James while he's holding the Apollo bar.

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propernice February 25 2011, 23:24:19 UTC

I agree with everything you've said. Erica's finally had some character growth, it feels like she's finally ready to fight instead of angst about the morality of it all. And ultimately I think that's why Hobbes is just a better fit. He'll push her where she needs to go, whereas I think Jack would just whisper in her ear about how we can't do this for whatever reason.

And also I just really approve of this scene because it's Erica in a bra, and in my head canon she has drawers and drawers of awesome bras.

Also, a friend and I were talking about it and she floated the idea around that maybe Hobbes is apologizing to Erica, telling her what happened, and this happens anyway. Which is why he's so vehemently saying they're going to get Tyler back. I'm not sure how much I agree with that, but it's a nice idea to float around.

bayloriffic February 25 2011, 23:53:46 UTC

Oh, I would very much enjoy it if that Hobbes-is-apologizing scenario is true, but I'm with you in that it's a nice idea, but probably doesn't have much behind it. I think it's going to be a MAJOR blow-up when it happens and probably won't end with Erica in her sexy black bra (which, btw, Erica in a bra is the best part! How can people be overlooking that because they don't like Hobbes? It's EM. IN A SUPER-SEXY, BLACK, LACE BRA. COME ON, FANDOM, GET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT.)

And re: Jack. That's my issue with him as well. At some point in the future, that might be just what she needs, some one to reign her in and remind her of her humanity. But Erica is nowhere near that place right now. What she needs is someone to remind her that her humanity isn't any good if they're all dead or turned into V-breeding machines or whatever. And Hobbes is just the sexy mercenary to do it.

823freckles February 26 2011, 01:43:09 UTC

I have watched V faithfully since that break of death between 104 and the rest of season one, but I'm not much in the fandom, so it surprises me that people are upset about this development. Seriously? Where are you hanging out (reading this)?

Anyways, I have nothing intelligent to add because I'm still so DROOL from this sneak peek. Oh man. Yay!

bayloriffic February 26 2011, 02:04:28 UTC

Most of the stuff I've read is at lj comms or tumblr. And it's not like people are being jerks about it or anything, but there's definitely a sense that Erica will realize the error of her ways and come back to the good, priestly side. Which, I think is just kind of missing the whole point of being in a war. There has to be collateral damage and Erica accepting that is a necessary evil if the 5th column is going to win.

But, on the plus side, most people do seem to be in agreement that Erica is a bra=a fun, sexy time for us all!

tia_no_one February 26 2011, 02:02:22 UTC

This. OMG, this so much. I am SO not one of those ppl pissed about where Erica's character is going. This is exactly where she NEEDS to be going. It's a war. There are going to be casualties, including casualties of innocent people, unfortunately.

And also, her and Hobbes r teh s3x.

bayloriffic February 26 2011, 02:11:59 UTC

Yeah, I mean it sucks that innocent people are going to die, but...it's a war. That's what happens in a war. If Erica isn't the kind of person who can deal with it, then she's a terrible person for the role of leader of the resistance and maybe they should get a new lead character. It's not like she needs to be a callous monster, taking out small children with, like, flame throwers and grenades, but if she's paralyzed from taking action every time she makes a tactical decision because it might hurt an "innocent," it'll be easy pickings for the evil lizard side.

her and Hobbes r teh s3x.
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