I turned-I turned away my head because I didn't want you to see me
like this.The perfume's not yet worn off, honeysuckle and gardenia sweetly sick and delicate. It's a tangle from which you can't get free; your mind is a maze
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Re: Fic: my skin is not my own (rated PG-13 for implications of sexin')workerbee73August 8 2012, 00:46:34 UTC
That's absolutely perfect. I didn't even think of the temple metaphor but damn if it doesn't fit the bill. And yep, that's why I lined up the chronology the way I did too with the story order (not sure if you looked before posted this, but if you didn't double brownie points!)
And remember how we were talking about 'shadow and soul' being where we see him well and truly in love? well, in my mind, and the end of this section-- that's where you see it begin for her. i'd always imagined that 'some of your scars' was what she looked like well and truly in love (or as in love as she gets in this verse), and this is the lead-in to that
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Re: Fic: my skin is not my own (rated PG-13 for implications of sexin')workerbee73August 8 2012, 17:54:30 UTC
Oh Trent indeed. That song's been on the list for a while now. :)
The 'to me' was her compeleting the sentence-- finishing his thought--and i love everything that says about her headspace right there. He volunteers nothing but she fills in the blanks. And while I don't think she's wrong, the fact that she'll go there, even inside her mind, speaks volumes.
And the silence. Oh the silence. I can have my Disney assassins banter all damn day (and I love it, truly), but here, the silence is what makes it. This particular relationship is all about the negative space. (and strangely i'm loathe to say too much about this verse, to give away too many secrets, b/c it starts to lose the mysticism. once you try to explain worship, or devotion, or faith (or the lack thereof) you always run the risk of lessening the beauty. it's why apohasis is such a powerful and profound concept.)
THIS WOMAN. agency feels ftw!Indeed. And in this story, her consent is very much thinly veiled imagery of her engagement in the reclamation process as a whole. **
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Re: Fic: my skin is not my own (rated PG-13 for implications of sexin')workerbee73August 8 2012, 19:48:54 UTC
I think so. she drags his ass to an impromptu middle fo the night russian orthodox wedding, and ti's cross-cut with their first meeting.
really, there aren't enough facepalms in the world for that shit. We need to stop being so damn sacred of complexity full stop. another irksome irk i find with strong female fandoms is the desire to reduce her male partner to less-than so she can always come out looking better/stronger/smarter/faster/"all the things more than you because women are awesome and don't forget it." it can tip the equlity balance in a way i find very unpalatable. strength and power aren't zero-sum games. one person having it does not necessarily require a reduction in the other.
Re: Fic: my skin is not my own (rated PG-13 for implications of sexin')workerbee73August 8 2012, 20:27:05 UTC
nah, don't worry about it. it wasn't a backhanded troll for comments. i'm just glad you enjoyed it; it was pretty much my first attempt at trying to take the words away from these two.
(incidentally, that is actually my primary irk with AO3. it's brilliant from a consumption perspective, but it's like tumblr for words. click a button if you like and no incentive to engage. ah, but that's a discussion for another day.)
i had seen that quote floating around but didn't realize it was hers. a thousand yeses. i think we'll start to get a lot more traction as a species when we throw men out as a yardstick for anything (same with women too). either/or gets so tiresome; i'd like the world I live in to be both/and (and full of wild purple technicolor too).
Re: Fic: my skin is not my own (rated PG-13 for implications of sexin')workerbee73August 8 2012, 23:44:08 UTC
yeah, it's why i can't give up ye olde LJ either. they meta for me is everything. so much of my creative process comes from the conversations i have here--i'd go so far as to say that most of my fics are spawned in some way or another out of the dialogue. this shit don't happen in a vacuum.
SUPER SEXY SPIES!!!!
(... and i am happy to report that thoughts are happening for 3rd-party scenes and such.)
Re: Fic: my skin is not my own (rated PG-13 for implications of sexin')cybermathwitchAugust 8 2012, 22:53:15 UTC
i think with dark, complicated female characters who don't emote there's this tendency to want to "fix" them-- to make them get in touch with the feeeeeeelings and get psycholanalyzed and therapy through their shit until they're OKAY (whatever the hell that means.) and frankly, it bothers me. i've also seen it manifest itself as a temptation to break down the character emotionally until they put themselves back together in a way that's more socially acceptable (read 'normal with normal emotions') and that's equally problematic. I went round and round all day about jumping in here or just having longer rambly think-y thoughts on my journal (answer: both), but this is touching on some things I'm really struggling with in some of the stories I'm writing (which I will grant you are closer to Disney than Cronenburg, but aren't entirely either) - where is the line between "fixing" and a character "healing" as a part of their growth and development? Because I'm a whole-hearted believer in characters coming to places and situations that help
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Bob's poem for this verse is posted here.
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I turned-I turned away my head because I didn't want you to see
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The 'to me' was her compeleting the sentence-- finishing his thought--and i love everything that says about her headspace right there. He volunteers nothing but she fills in the blanks. And while I don't think she's wrong, the fact that she'll go there, even inside her mind, speaks volumes.
And the silence. Oh the silence. I can have my Disney assassins banter all damn day (and I love it, truly), but here, the silence is what makes it. This particular relationship is all about the negative space. (and strangely i'm loathe to say too much about this verse, to give away too many secrets, b/c it starts to lose the mysticism. once you try to explain worship, or devotion, or faith (or the lack thereof) you always run the risk of lessening the beauty. it's why apohasis is such a powerful and profound concept.)
THIS WOMAN. agency feels ftw!Indeed. And in this story, her consent is very much thinly veiled imagery of her engagement in the reclamation process as a whole. ** ( ... )
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really, there aren't enough facepalms in the world for that shit. We need to stop being so damn sacred of complexity full stop. another irksome irk i find with strong female fandoms is the desire to reduce her male partner to less-than so she can always come out looking better/stronger/smarter/faster/"all the things more than you because women are awesome and don't forget it." it can tip the equlity balance in a way i find very unpalatable. strength and power aren't zero-sum games. one person having it does not necessarily require a reduction in the other.
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(incidentally, that is actually my primary irk with AO3. it's brilliant from a consumption perspective, but it's like tumblr for words. click a button if you like and no incentive to engage. ah, but that's a discussion for another day.)
i had seen that quote floating around but didn't realize it was hers. a thousand yeses. i think we'll start to get a lot more traction as a species when we throw men out as a yardstick for anything (same with women too). either/or gets so tiresome; i'd like the world I live in to be both/and (and full of wild purple technicolor too).
(i have not but now i'm intrigued...)
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SUPER SEXY SPIES!!!!
(... and i am happy to report that thoughts are happening for 3rd-party scenes and such.)
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