election musings

Mar 12, 2004 10:13

The following is just some armchair political strategizing I was doing last night as I was trying to fall asleep:

fanciful musings of a would be politico )

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The real question is... tygerversionx March 12 2004, 14:28:47 UTC
...why were you trying to fall asleep in an armchair? ;)

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Re: The real question is... beachboyty March 12 2004, 14:31:54 UTC
with my pants around my ankles and my 18 year old guatamalan immigrant houseboy on his knees in front of me no less!!

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Re: The real question is... willyoungfan March 12 2004, 16:58:21 UTC
Hey Hey hey!!!!! Why do all houseboys have to be from Guatemala?
I'm sure in the last couple of years we've managed to move up the ranks... like poolboys and personal body assistants :)

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Re: The real question is... beachboyty March 12 2004, 17:02:31 UTC
BELIEVE me...in my house, the houseboy position represents king of the castle. There is NONE higher ;)

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iconoclast March 12 2004, 14:39:32 UTC
Interesting scenario! I put a lot of faith in Morris. He wrote a book (I forget the title) about working for Clinton that was quite good.

I think Bush should have ditched Cheney and chosen Condoleeza Rice. Now THAT would be an unstoppable ticket. Powell, by contrast, just seems too tired and out of sorts.

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beachboyty March 12 2004, 14:45:45 UTC
Yes, but Powell only seems that way because he has lost all his battles with the neo-cons in the adminstration. Quite frankly, there are a lot of swing voters who don't blame the President for the WMD mix-up, but the neo-cons who pushed him to war for their own purposes. For whatever reason, Condy Rice is more associated with this group and Colin Powell is seen as the element within the adminstration that would have preferred to go about things a bit more diplomatically. There are a lot of people who support the general idea of going after Saddam, but who find the manner in which we arrived at that decision to be distasteful and a case of minds made up with or without facts. Colin Powell's addition to the ticket would signal that unilateralism is taking a back seat to a more "partnership" model, which a lot of people think is a more appropriate approach now that the dirty work has been done and its clean up time.

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markormarky March 12 2004, 15:29:15 UTC
well, i don't mind the scenario of kerry choosing hillary as his VP in 2008 at all!! :-)

as for mr. morris - i really believe he is whacko - WHACKO! - when it comes to the clintons. he may be smart in other matters, but they singularly blind him. he becomes a drooling, gawking, finger-pointing numbnut when making a judgment on bill or hillary or chelsea. it's entertaining, tho.

you're smarter than him.

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beachboyty March 12 2004, 15:42:29 UTC
:)

I would say that flattery will get you everywhere, but truth be told I probably gave you access to my "everywhere" somewhere between your posts on the girl from your gym and the killer bee taking over your bathroom.

So, I'll just say thanks for the kind words. They made me smile.

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tres_faux March 12 2004, 16:06:21 UTC
Wasn't it not too long ago that everyone was just convinced that Hillary was going to jump into the race for the nomination?

I think that in Morris's case, he just doesn't trust Hillary, and so tends to think of her in terms rather similar to those of George F. Will; i.e. with untoward paranoid beliefs in her all-powerful scheming abilities. In this case, you're completely right -- Kerry wouldn't pick Hillary anyways, because the amount of baggage she carries is still rather high and would unduly excite the Republican base. And well, he needs someone who can gain him some electoral votes. My vote is for Sen. Bayh or Gov. Richardson, honestly.

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whitman22 March 13 2004, 13:43:46 UTC
Commentators like Morris love the game/entertainment aspect of the race, and the most entertaining scenario for him is one in which Hillary is scheming to become president. So I think he's playing up that angle because it would be the most fun for him, and in a way, for the cable news audience. I don't buy it at all.

If Hillary is as smart as they say she is, then she knows the most likely scenario is a Kerry loss in 2004, and a clear field for her to run in 2008, should she wish to do so. Conversely, how often does a losing VP candidate come back and take the nomination four years later? Joe Lieberman, anyone? The taint of failure is strong.

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beachboyty March 14 2004, 09:05:04 UTC
I would tend to agree with you on what Hillary's thoughts must be. But, if Kerry does not name a running mate until closer to the convention (against the advise of most democratic advisors) that will afford Hillary the opportunity to assess how Kerry is faring against G.W. at that time. If it becomes apparent that Kerry has a strong chance of pulling a Bill Clinton, then she might think otherwise ( ... )

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