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Going to a Black Sabbath concert tonight and then away for three weeks....

Jul 05, 2005 13:32

Now, bands throwing TVs out of hotel windows is completely normal and makes them look oh-so-cool, right? Well, do things like Metallica suing(sp?) Napster affect their rock credability? Do you think it affected how we listen to their music and see them as a band? And if a rock star dies, does it immediately make them a legend or somehow make their ( Read more... )

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bleed_music July 5 2005, 07:21:52 UTC

I think if anything, Metallica suing Napster showed several things about the band ( ... )

arvedui03 July 5 2005, 07:48:00 UTC

Starting off with the Metallica thing, yes i think it did affet their credibility. I never really liked them anyway, although i do like some of their songs. However, i think that by attacking Napster, the picked the wrong problem to attack. Napster was not the source of their problems. The problem lies with big technology corps. CD burners, Mp3 players, and things like that are the reason napster and kaaza and limewire exist. With out the ability to burn the songs you illegally download on to cd's, why would you even download them? And i hear people say, well because of this, cd's aren't selling as well as they should be. I'm not sure i believe that. I think most of the time, people just get tired of buying a cd to get 2 maybe 3 good songs off of it. Most of the groups people here listen to don't do that to you. but in mainstream, hip-hop, whatever you want to call it, most cd's contain one or two good songs ( ... )

bleed_music July 5 2005, 08:24:12 UTC

Napster was not the source of their problems. The problem lies with big technology corps. CD burners, Mp3 players, and things like that are the reason napster and kaaza and limewire exist

That's one of the huge mis-conceptions. Metallica was never anti-communication. They were all for their music being re-produced, they just wanted to have a say so about it. Music ownership. That's what the big fuss was about. Going for the technology corperations would have been a terrible idea because they was pro-communication, but they are also pro-music-owner ship. Napster never asked Metallica if they're music could be up for anyone's grabs.

Napter, along with all the other file sharing companies, were the problem because they never simply because they never asked.

"Getting the music around" is not what Napster was sued for. Getting music around without their permission is why Metallica, along with many many other artists sued the shit out of Napster. -And rightfully won.

bleed_music July 5 2005, 08:30:23 UTC

PS

Metallica has never complained about record sells.

Another HUGE mis-conception thank you very much misguided media.

It was never about money

It was about ownership.

If you have a CD whether it be of your band or of your favorite band, do you want someone comming along and swiping it without asking?

That's the big point that a lot of people are missing

kegwen July 5 2005, 09:55:56 UTC

Aaaand they've still sucked for 10 years, so nobody cares about them and their opinions

bleed_music July 5 2005, 11:50:53 UTC

Alas!

But I do

Along with the 10 or so million other people (that you've so aptly called "nobodies" that has bought their latest Album St. Anger

Oh...and since you're talking about the past 10 years

That doesn't include Load, Re-Load, Garage Inc, and S&M

I'm sure collectively that adds up to approx. 50 million people.

But 50 Million (at very least) is nobody right?

Oh fuck! And that is CD's alone

Let's not even talk about merchandise in general? Such as T-Shirts, Wallets, Wall-lights, clocks, DVDs (They've put out at least 3 DVDs in the past 10yrs) Cause then we'd have to talk about more than Zero people, because Metallica does damn good not just in CD sells, but merchandise as well!

Naw, no one cares about Metallica...no one at all.

I think what you meant was you don't care about them and their opinions. -Now that I can understand.

How is Modest Mouse doing these days?

mellanor July 5 2005, 15:22:31 UTC

I can respect Metallica's decision to 'fight for their rights,' so far as it goes. That said, I happen to think that the entire debacle was in bad taste. I mean, consider their enemies in the whole thing: not solely Napster, but three hundred and thirty thousand fans of THEIR OWN that they monitored trading Metallica songs on Napster one weekend, and who were subsequently barred from Napster entirely (in the first major legal battle alone, mind you). They've got the right to not have their songs on available for filesharing if they so choose. But to take the fight to a third of a million people who idolize them as artists is a bit cold, wouldn't you say ( ... )

redsea_greysky July 11 2005, 12:18:59 UTC

I don't think dying makes anyone a legend or amkes them seem deeper. Keith Moon and John Bonham aren't thought of as deep by any means. They were just amazing drummers. You can listen to their tracks and realize that. Then you take someone like Jim Morrison or John Lennon, which is what I think you might have been implying in the "deeper" statement, and it makes you wonder if he would have been as idolized if he hadn't had a tragic death. But again I think both of their works are and should be respected.