It seems that Cosgrove is the instrument of a pressure group and not the representative of the elected. He is also willing to advance an idea that life begins at conception without having the mandate of the people to do so. But he is being pressured by groups who are opposed to abortions. Yes this is terrible for the women and no the Police won't be trained, you will be at their mercy.
However this bill like so many illustrates an important lesson in democracy, namely that the government is us. You must participate and be vigilant at all times. Cosgrove has become the instrument of a group who are very active and hoping the silent majority will just sit there quietly while they pass this bill. But in a democracy and this is true of every country where you elect people to represent you, you must be vocal and argue forcibly your point. It means a lot of work, most people are not up to it. This is what pressure groups hope for.
Let's hope that for the sake of decency and the respect of individuals this bill will be defeated.
Re: very sadbenponderJanuary 10 2005, 02:42:38 UTC
but the question is, has anybody raised a big stink about this at all? Government on all levels in this country has been such a mess that most people just try to ignore it. It's like when the kitchen gets abhorently messy and all the people living at the apartment just start ordering takeout food because nobody even knows where to start with the cleaning. Yes, people need to get involved, but we're all just so busy with our everyday lives, jobs, watching favorite shows on television, and going to bed... people don't carve time out of their day for staying informed
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scares me too, but it's uniquitous these days. The far right is absolutely absurd, but even the moderate right is starting to drift in that direction, whereas the moderate left is staying moderate and the extreme left is publicly ridiculed.
Concerned citizens need to do something about this, and I think the best plan of action is to make more concerned citizens. I am definitely pro-choice, not meaning I'm anti-birth, but meaning if a woman wants an abortion she should be free to do it in a clinical, sterile environment, rather than some back alley with some dude named Rusty brandishing a wire coathanger.
It's hard to speak rationally about the whole issue, because it just makes me so angry. That's why I'm trying to understand a rationale behind it, maybe then I can do my part to defuse this kind of thinking through my music, or any other outlets I can use.
I doubt going to stand up under constitutional muster, but who knows.
The rationale for this law and others like it is simple...this country is not willing to limit or outlaw abortions mainly as people don't see a fetus as being different, deserving less rights compared to a baby after birth. The pro-life crowd sees a need to change that mentality so they continue to enact laws that provide rights/protections to fetuses that already exist for everyone else. In this case it extending the law that all deaths must be reported to the unborn.
Iowa has gotten into this game too...if you are responsible for the unintended (defined by the mother's wishes) death of a fetus, you will be held criminally responsible just as if the fetus had been born. Run a red light, get into an accident causing a miscarriage; you will be facing a vehicular manslaughter charge.
Supposedly the bill is supposed to ONLY refer to still born babies or babies who die shortly after birth, not miscarriages. If that is the case, I think the text of the bill should not say "fetal death" and "fetus", I'm sure a better term could be used. I guess I'm still slightly suspicious.
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But he is being pressured by groups who are opposed to abortions. Yes this is terrible for the women and no the Police won't be trained, you will be at their mercy.
However this bill like so many illustrates an important lesson in democracy, namely that the government is us. You must participate and be vigilant at all times. Cosgrove has become the instrument of a group who are very active and hoping the silent majority will just sit there quietly while they pass this bill.
But in a democracy and this is true of every country where you elect people to represent you, you must be vocal and argue forcibly your point. It means a lot of work, most people are not up to it. This is what pressure groups hope for.
Let's hope that for the sake of decency and the respect of individuals this bill will be defeated.
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Concerned citizens need to do something about this, and I think the best plan of action is to make more concerned citizens. I am definitely pro-choice, not meaning I'm anti-birth, but meaning if a woman wants an abortion she should be free to do it in a clinical, sterile environment, rather than some back alley with some dude named Rusty brandishing a wire coathanger.
It's hard to speak rationally about the whole issue, because it just makes me so angry. That's why I'm trying to understand a rationale behind it, maybe then I can do my part to defuse this kind of thinking through my music, or any other outlets I can use.
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The rationale for this law and others like it is simple...this country is not willing to limit or outlaw abortions mainly as people don't see a fetus as being different, deserving less rights compared to a baby after birth. The pro-life crowd sees a need to change that mentality so they continue to enact laws that provide rights/protections to fetuses that already exist for everyone else. In this case it extending the law that all deaths must be reported to the unborn.
Iowa has gotten into this game too...if you are responsible for the unintended (defined by the mother's wishes) death of a fetus, you will be held criminally responsible just as if the fetus had been born. Run a red light, get into an accident causing a miscarriage; you will be facing a vehicular manslaughter charge.
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If that is the case, I think the text of the bill should not say "fetal death" and "fetus", I'm sure a better term could be used. I guess I'm still slightly suspicious.
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