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Nov 09, 2004 01:05

you know, i didnt want to jump into this whole political debate that's going on post-election day. some of you might have noticed that i've been absent from the discussions that have been going on in other people's live journals, though discussion is a generous word to use ( Read more... )

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mulhern November 9 2004, 07:01:47 UTC
Try cooking and egg in a a climate in which the kitchen, stove, chickens and head chef are all republicans violently opposed to eggs.

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billygnosis November 9 2004, 07:42:02 UTC
try gaining your independece when you're heavily outmanned, outgunned, outtrained, and the people you need to rely on are still undecided whether they support the british or the colonials.

oh right. that's how the united states was born. by doing something about it, even in the face of adversity.

it's not supposed to be easy to change. it's supposed to be hard. but that doesn't mean give up.

many people say that those who didnt vote shouldnt complain about who is in office or what they are doing.
i say that those who feel that there is something wrong with the administration shouldnt complain about those wrongdoings if they are going to go no further than to complain.

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mulhern November 9 2004, 07:52:42 UTC
your analogy is faulty. The british made only a half-ass attempt to retain control of the colonies. if they had committed there full force, we would have been crushed. Their hearts weren't in it.

The republican relgious right is a fundamentalist fanatical group that feels very strongly that the ends justify the means, because they think they are doing "god's work".

It's like fighting terrorism. when the opposition has god on their side, they have nothing to lose.

I'm not trying to argue with you Joe, I'm just looking for an atheist peace.

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billygnosis November 9 2004, 07:58:15 UTC
be it faulty or not, the analogy serves its purpose. it's meant to say that change is difficult. by no means was america's fight for independence from the british easy. the point i'm trying to make is that change and reform is not something you ask for and expect to just be given. you have to work for it. those who opposed bush did try to make a change. but their goal was not achieved, because bush won the election. now they have to work to try to make changes a different way.

just because bush won the election doesnt mean it's time to give up.

if you give up and feel that there is no hope, or we shouldn't try to make change, or it would just be too difficult because of the republicans believing that "god is on their side," then maybe those who oppose bush just "don't have their hearts in it."

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i wasn't going to get into this, but... ameforstars November 12 2004, 04:12:10 UTC
then i saw this:

"this is where we have to consider what the president of the united states truly stands for.

yes, he (or she, if amie makes it in.... [excellent point finished here]"

thanks for reminding me why i heart you.
and want to have your babies.
now.

:)

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Re: i wasn't going to get into this, but... billygnosis November 12 2004, 06:33:28 UTC
it's a deal, as long as you're not married and in office. because i couldn't let you possibly sabotage your uber-political career and mission to turn the globe into beef-fearing feminazi vegans by being tempted by your super hot body and wait a minute, what are you doing tonight? fancy a meeting?

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billygnosis November 13 2004, 05:47:21 UTC
there goes the whole "seriousness factor" of this entry.

it was good and intense and intellectual to a point, while it lasted.

now it's just one of those livejournal entries that people are too lazy to scroll down their friends page to see if anyone has posted a new comment.

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