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Mar 20, 2010 14:15


If the health care bill passes, you and I will be required to obtain insurance or face an annual penalty of $695. I cannot afford health insurance. I will therefore have to pay the fine ( Read more... )

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tochiro998 March 21 2010, 07:07:14 UTC
Well, I see what's going to happen already ( ... )

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puppyfuu March 21 2010, 07:26:20 UTC
Much like teaching, you can't actually "force" someone to be a doctor or medical professional. What will be interesting is if they TRY to do so, when push comes to shove, which gives first? Lower quality medical professionals being accepted or lawyers continuing to sue the pants off them. People are accepting of the lower educational quality/standards, but that's not life or death. The question is, will we cut back on lawsuits (once everything else is done, not before) in order to deal with volume, or will suits be wide open, thus keeping medical options limited. It'll be an interesting question for sure.

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tochiro998 March 21 2010, 07:51:16 UTC
Well, as I understand it, there isn't even a whiff of Tort Reform in this bill. So it seems chaining the lawyers is not on the agenda ( ... )

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kyburg March 21 2010, 16:34:20 UTC
If and when the fee bill comes, speak up and we'll all hold a raffle to come up with the few thousand it *might* be.

Instead of year long slogs to come up with the tens of thousands they have to right now.

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tochiro998 March 21 2010, 17:18:01 UTC
Understand, I think most reasoning people believe there needs to be change in the healthcare world, there's crazy ass crap that just doesn't need to be embedded deep in the system. Somehow the rational rules of supply and demand and market forces are turned on their head when it comes to medicine ( ... )

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Doesn't this Bill still have to pass the full Senate? dvancleve March 21 2010, 18:28:03 UTC
I agree, Steve, not this way.

Supposedly, Democrats lost their filibuster-proof 60-seat majority earlier this year, but what about the Senate vote?

Pelosi supposedly has the votes, so I should probably just turn C-SPAN off...

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kyburg March 22 2010, 15:47:33 UTC
Dumb question. Do you know what buys dialysis machines?

I do. And the answer may surprise you.

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bitpig March 22 2010, 01:40:49 UTC
We are so boned.

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puppyfuu March 22 2010, 01:51:35 UTC
It appears so.

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tochiro998 March 22 2010, 04:09:59 UTC
It's so strange. I don't want to be melodramatic but I feel really....lost...right now.

Like I'm going to drive down the street and all the American flags will be replaced with something else.

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bitpig March 22 2010, 06:10:20 UTC
Eh, don't let it get to you. Republics always devolve into bread-and-circus tyrannies over time. What happened to the USSR in 1991 will happen in time to the USA. Our best strategy is to strengthen ourselves in mind, body, and spirit; avoid contact with the Powers That Be whenever possible; and prepare ourselves to survive the inevitable System Crash.

The more our society becomes a top-down bureaucracy, the faster the Crash will come. In a way, the Powers That Be did us a favor by passing this bill -- they hastened the inevitable.

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The Market will provide. anonymous March 24 2010, 04:46:51 UTC
Thomas Franks, in "One Nation Under God," argued that The Market had replaced God in America, and was held in a sacred space as the Ultima Thule in America.

In this case, though, The Market will indeed rain manna.
Some enterprising insurer will offer the bare-bones minimum health policy for just a bit less than the fine (or tax obligation) will be. They will also offer it as a monthly deductible option. $50 a month may hurt, but it is not impossible.

Of course, with the public option, that $50 could just be deducted from your paycheck automatically, before it even gets int your take-home.

Interesting, that.

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