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Feb 07, 2009 00:57

So Denny told me in his sweetly unromantic way that he is pretty much going to propose this year. I'm stoked (of course). Unfortunately he's talking about it like it's more of a burden and a obstacle then something to be rejoicing over. Nevertheless I'm still excited. I've been staring at pics of wedding dresses and googling wedding customs. ( Read more... )

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eternalmaiden February 7 2009, 06:34:05 UTC

actually, our ceremony is going to be as Goddess-oriented as I can get it, so that may not help you much.

blackiris17 February 7 2009, 17:40:41 UTC

*has jealous sadness on her face*

eternalmaiden February 8 2009, 18:40:03 UTC

It might not be as much so as I'd hoped, because it looks like we may be inviting some of her family.

I'm 100% out to my remaining family, but then they are relatively sane.

brigittefires February 7 2009, 07:40:45 UTC

Tying the hands together is, I believe, also a Jewish custom. Some other cultures place a cloth over the hands, but not necessarily tying them. My sleepy meds are kicking in so it's hard to get more specific and I'm sure I missed some of your entry.

The guy I brought with me a couple years ago to the bday party with damion, Craig, is a ULC Reverand. cejarvis, give him a hollar. If nothing else, he might be able to point you in the direction of someone else who might fit your needs more.

Feel free to post on this again some as you get more into it, or to contact me directly. I'm pretty good with google-fu and cultural and religious stuff.

blackiris17 February 7 2009, 17:41:19 UTC

thanks I really appreciate it :)

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blackiris17 February 12 2009, 00:13:48 UTC

you're so ridiculously sweet *loves you*

faellie_sparks February 8 2009, 04:38:21 UTC

If I were in your situation, and Amanda let me know she was going to propose and made it sound like a chore, I would tell her not to bother.

Why do you accept less than you deserve?

(Sorry, not capable of being less of a friend.)

oneiromancer666 February 8 2009, 06:41:44 UTC

Start exposing your uber-Christian relatives to your beliefs now, possibly in graduated steps but eventually fully, so that any drama that might occur will be manifested and resolved before the wedding even occurs. I honestly wouldn't even set a wedding date until after you have fully exposed your relatives to your beliefs and allowed enough time for the drama to be resolved. Once the drama is resolved, you can have a wedding that you will truly enjoy participating in.

oneiromancer666 February 10 2009, 23:47:00 UTC

That's wishful thinking at best, Damien. It's *because* her family loves her that there will be 'drama'. You know how Christians believe. It's not some whimsy religious belief that comes and goes...it's real life, for life. Eternal life, really. Her family (most of them anyway) will always have a resentful and sorrowful attitude toward this decision. The best Renee could hope for is an awkward discomfort at the ceremony. I'm just speaking the truth...not trying to be a rain on a parade.

BTW, we never finished our dialogue from last year. What happened?

Also, I hope that your life is happy right now, Renee. I think and pray for you every now and again. If either of you are on Facebook...send me a line: Sean Bertolino. B-)

oneiromancer666 February 12 2009, 07:21:30 UTC

"The best Renee could hope for is an awkward discomfort at the ceremony. I'm just speaking the truth."

You are not speaking the truth; rather, you are speaking a prediction based on your personal model of reality, a model that I assert is incomplete at best. As human modelers are fallible, your humanly fallible prediction is not "the truth". Not everyone is equally convinced into believing all of the Christian beliefs. Some people, even though raised to believe a certain way, have intuitions in their heart which eventually lead them away from flawed religious beliefs.

The part that was really the wishful thinking part was hoping that Renee would actually stand up for herself and not let any of her relatives intimidate her into compliance with their intolerance.

oneiromancer666 February 12 2009, 23:01:55 UTC

Do you find it ironic that you contradict yourself at every turn? Seriously now...what sort of rubbish are you speaking? You meekly bash my beliefs and call them 'incomplete' because 'human modelers are fallible'. First, what is a human modeler? I am curious as to where your vocabulary comes from sometimes, Damian. Very intriguing. Secondly, and more importantly, that's all contradicting. You cannot sit there and say humans are fallible while you yourself issue a statement of truth. By your own definition, you're wrong. Now, don't misunderstand...I believe humans are fallible as well. Hence, God is infallible. A cornerstone of the Christian way. For you to deny truth though, is foolishness. Where do we go if there is no truth in the world? How do we know what is real or not real? Is this conversation even taking place? Do you see what I'm getting at? Just because we are fallible does dictate we are so all the time. In reference to my comments, you made no attempt to even explain why they are wrong. This is not MY ( ... )

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