RIP, George Tiller

[boudiceaborn]

I'm so upset at Dr Tiller's murder (gunned down, while entering church, in front of his family). He provided late-term abortions to the American midwest, and his clinic is one of the only places in the region where these sorts of abortions are performed

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[tjonesy]

This news completely upset me earlier today. Also, how insane is the twisted logic these "pro-lifers" use to condone murder? Frakking dangerous idiots.

[boudiceaborn]

Well I think it's insane, but I don't believe that fetuses are people. If I knew there was a serial murderer out there guilty of killing thousands of people, and the state was protecting him, I might feel that vigilantiism served the greater good.

The pro-life groups like Operation Rescue that are now talking out of the sides of their mouths about how terrible and anti-life his murder was are the same groups who called him Tiller the Killer, owner of the murder mills, the Doctor of Death. By using that sort of rhetoric they certainly stirred up dangerous hatred and it's not really surprising that some deranged fellow thought himself to be the saviour of all the little babies and went to town.

[woland]

Beyond being a completely horrible and unjustifiable violent action, his killing makes zero sense even from a radical pro-life point of view. If a woman finds out that her fetus has a catastrophic condition, is it so much better from a pro-life standpoint to have her suffer through three more months of pregnancy knowing that she will then go through childbirth to have her baby die? The baby dies either way....

There's nothing to say about this that hasn't been said a million times, i guess. But still. Killing someone in church as they volunteered for said church, it's just terrible.

[boudiceaborn]

That's why I think some on the pro-life side are completely out of touch with any sort of pragmatic, real life ethics. The Vatican made a point of praising Rita Fedrizzi, who chose to forego treatment for skin cancer because she was pregnant, and then died 3 months after the birth. They canonized St. Gianna Beretta Molla, who also refused medical treatment because of the danger to the fetus. Obviously I think they should have had the choice in that case about undergoing treatment, but I'm not sure how pro-life it really is. What if the women had recovered from their conditions and then had several more children? They're just two of the more obvious examples of how women's lives are undervalued in the extreme pro-life movement.

[propernice]

Even if someone doesn't agree with what he does, this is such an extremely outstanding showing of hypocrisy that I can't begin to wrap my mind around it.