I must insist

[bouncing_bunny]

I have some thoughts running through my mind that I had to fashion into words. I wrote them down and decided to post them to see what the feedback would be. I was curious. If you want to read my thoughts, my myspace url is myspace.com/frailandfragilebars

Comments

Here's a response.

[v_valaquenta]

I can not even begin to imagine many of the things you have gone through. I myself have not experienced them and, no offense meant here, if I am lucky, I will never experience such things. Love is a much more complicated matter than to be summed up in a single quote, journal post, or even a novel size paper. Shakespeare did not have it figured out. Nor did Frost. People who think they have love figured out are mislead in there understanding or reasoning. Of course, I also admit that I could be mislead in my thinking up to this point. All I can say is that if nothing else, I do believe these events have made you a stronger person, for better or worse. Many of the questions you asked can not be answered, at least not by someone such as myself. And anyone that does have answers to those questions will themselves be questioned by other people and the cycle shall go on and on

Re: Here's a response.

[bouncing_bunny]

Thank you for your input. I really enjoyed reading it. You did suceed in making me think more about things. I thank you so much for that fact.
And I do know that no one has the ability to fully say what love is. It is easier to experience it than to describe it. But I know that the poem I used from Shakespeare, that is how I have always thought of love. When I read it for the first time, I knew that that was what I thought. And I know that that isn't all there is to love. But I know that that idea was the heart of my thoughts on the matter.
Thank you for the poem, I enjoyed it.
And I want to thank you for posting a reply. I very much enjoyed it.
And Thank you for the advice at the end.
I love you Paul.

[darthfury]

Your post asked many questions, and I cannot answer or begin to answer them without a long post of my own, so I will sum up my thoughts here. However, if asked directly about any one of them, I may be able to form a half-decent answer.

Love becomes real when two people choose for it to be real. Love can grow stronger. You ask if love grows stronger, was it not love before? To that I say, If a sapling grows into a mighty oak, was it not still a tree all along?

Time should never be spent pining for someone (though I confess to hypocrisy on several counts here). One must move on, because if they left you pining, then they weren't worth it in the first place.

Love becomes more than lust or infatutation when two people choose to make it more. Beyond that, I'm not sure what to say

[bouncing_bunny]

So you can choose who to love then? How is that true love. Shouldn't it happen on it's own? People can't make feelings appear if they aren't true. Love is not a tree. It is not a phyiscal thing at all. It is a concept, and idea that manifests itself in actions, thoughts, and feelings.

[darthfury]

Love doesn't happen on its own, it never can. Lust, infatutation, those are naturally occuring. It's when people feel that they've made a deeper connection, or want to make a deeper one, that's when it can become love.

The choice is in the making of true love. Understand: i don't mean "choice" in the simple what-do-i-wear-today or which-flavor-of-ice-cream-will-i-get sense, but a deeper one. when every fiber of your being is put into wanting to understand this person, to grow old with them, to be happy with them. That's what i mean when i say choice

[bouncing_bunny]

Then that's not a choice at all if everything you are wants it. You don't choose that. It happens without your consent. If you love someone with everything you are then you can't help who it is you love. You can hide your feelings, but they are still there, buried inside. But you can't decide who you will love and then not. It isn't a conscience choice, it is something that is decided with your heart. I can't ever agree on love being a choice of someone wanting to be closer to another. Some you just click with more than others. You can make the choice on being closer to them, but you can't choose to love them. Love is above the decisions of the mind.