On PubSubHubbub and rssCloud ...

[brad]

Are you confused about the difference between PubSubHubbub and rssCloud?  You're not alone.

Here's how the confusion came about:

Dave Winer invented rssCloud way back in the day.  It only distributed lite pings, the callback endpoint was the IP address that you subscribed from, and nobody really ever implemented it, so you

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[evan]

Comments on some posts I read indicate they think only Google can run a hub, which is where the "bigco sux" stuff comes from. Can you preemptively respond to that? (Perhaps by amending your post in the paragraph where you talk about 20% time.)

[evan]

PS they just checked libjingle into Chrome since it's used for bookmarks sync. If you have any grand plans involving XMPP bridges into JS I'd be interested in hacking them out.

[ext_207224]

So far, I did a presentation on how to build a hub here:
http://code.google.com/p/pubsubhubbub/wiki/BuildingAHub

But more documentation (and a more thorough compliance test suite than we already have) would be great.

[mirukux]

and XEP-0060 just isn't getting adopted, probably because XMPP weirds people out

what about GTalk and Wave? and how will PubSubHubbub communicate with these? XMPP-0060, some other gateway or, ugh, a bot?

what do you think of the Superfeedr architecture?

why can't gateways and clients start using XEP-0004 more like XEP-0060 asks? what if Google had bridged this chicken-and-egg gap.. (possibly with the help their own handrolled protocol a la VOIP *wonders how long until someone implements Jingle in Wave..*)?

[kragen]

That's completely unfair. Ted Nelson actually invented a lot of cool stuff, wrote a couple of important books, and funded a lot of research.

[blasdelf]

And the problem with Nelson's ideas is their utopian idealism -- Winer's ideas are simply terrible.