we'll neglect the notion that we don't want this

[bread_and_roses]

as much as i hate that fucking word, today has been really productive. i got home at 11:30 and i fixed my flat, though i still have to true my wheel. then i came inside and i sewed about five patches onto my shorts, caue it's warm enough to wear them today and i plan on it

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[derek2600]

i'm looking forward to a sunny day now that's it's summer in MA.

[bread_and_roses]

yeah man. but don't worry. it's not really a problem! the earth has hot and cold cycles! global warming doesn't exist!

ahem.

[peacelovehappy]

i think the key is being productive in ways that we enjoy, after all where would we be if no one did anything, at the most basic of levels without farming and getting water we would all die, but i do know what you mean. i think that being "productive" isn't bad, and after all, how productive is that buisy work? for example it sounds like the things you did today made you happy and were usefull to the way you want to live your life, good productive. however someone who is forced to do things they don't want to is not productive for themselves, they produce for others (and not in that happy, spirit of giving way, but as in exploitation), bad productive.
i'm taking a writing class on the education system this quarter (ironic, perhaps) but it should be interesting.

[duello]

Agreed about productivity. I think I need to move to some chill European country where you get 2-hour lunch breaks. And a siesta.

[ibitepeople]

maybe school isn't as bad as you put it out to be. maybe in your life specifically school seems useless and meaningless, but in general, i do not believe that is true. school is a starting block to let us go where we want to in life. it engages us in activities we often would not have been aware of. it shows us things that maybe we never thought we'd be interested in, but in fact are. the first 12 years of school is a managerie of different work, a lot of which we will not use, but it is grounding us to be able to pursue higher education, or to jump into the work force DOING WHAT WE WANT TO DO. it is not about making you mindless drones of the american workforce. maybe for once you should look at the positives of education and the american system. by no means is it all fine and dandy, it has its fair share of problems, but it is not just one huge corrupt system that must be destroyed.

think about it.

[bread_and_roses]

i did. i disagree. think of the conditioning and socialization we recieve in school. i honestly think school breaks down our natural curiosity. think about how many kids say they are not interested in learning after years of school, and then think of the way little kids are before school. have you ever seen a child who said they don't like to learn? think of the authority with which they treat us. hey MAKE us learn, and then judge our "knowledge" in tests. what do those tests know about us ? the reason i believe self-education is the way to go is because we know our selves better than some distant board of adults do. why should someone who doesn't know me decide what i learn?

[funkowitz]

Actually, ibitepeople, schools are designed to make "mindless drones of the american workforce." It has been demonstrated numerous times that schools in lower-class areas train students for eight-hour shifts doing mindless work while middle-class schools teach their students slightly more in order to prepare them for work as managers of the kids from lower class schools. As for wealthy schools, well I guess they prepare kids for business school, where they learn to become CEOs of the companies where the middle- and lower-class kids end up working.