I am not going to argue with you about this. I agree 100% with you on this. I was told growing up, that people have to actually hear the message of Christ and then if they deny it, they will go to Hell, not if they haven't even heard of it. That makes no sense to me, none at all!!!!
This is really a sad,sad world if that's what people are thinking.
No arguments here!quiet_momentsFebruary 19 2006, 13:41:29 UTC
I have always felt that viewpoint described in that excerpt is wrong, very wrong. I remember a few months ago at church there was an entire sermon devoted to that even, and he seems to feel the way we do. Who knows? Maybe after death, those who did not hear the message are somehow presented with it, and can then choose to accept or reject it? I don't know, I honestly don't know. But I do feel that man is wrong, wrong wrong, and, by the way, WRONG!
I always think that it's wierd when people say that God's nature is revealed through creation. I mean, for one thing, creation is really brutal in addition to being beautiful. There is a lot of evil in nature, like in the way animals kill and eat one another, and in the way that the elements (rain, wind, extreme temperatures) are cruel to the point of killing a lot of life. At best, IMHO, creation would testify to a neutral God, not a "good" God.
And for another thing, even if creation does evidence the existence of God, I can't imagine how anyone in their right mind could think that it obviously and clearly evidences Jesus specifically. I mean, where? How? I would like someone to explain that to me!
Well you know my opinion since we were talking about it the other night, but I'm gonna comment anyway. I don't see how someone can in the same breathe say that people who never heard of Jesus or God will go to hell, and yet say that their God is loving. Sorry, but God would be kind of petty if he/she were really like that.
I once read a quote from a musician in Texas... it was quoted in Rodney Clapp's amazing book Tortured Wonders: Christian Spirituality for the Body. it goes something like this:
"Growing up in Texas, we learned two things. First, God loves you and he's going to send you to hell, and second, that sex is evil and dirty and wrong, and you should do it with the one you love. No wonder we're so screwed up down here."
not exactly worded the same, but you get the gist of it.
The overly simplistic attitude inherent in the answer from that book reminds me of that quote for some reason.
But then... that's what happens when for so long people have tried to make the Bible into a document that can be scientifically distilled into the correct theological statements. Aka fundamentalism.
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This is really a sad,sad world if that's what people are thinking.
Oh, if you get the chance, can you call me later?
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And for another thing, even if creation does evidence the existence of God, I can't imagine how anyone in their right mind could think that it obviously and clearly evidences Jesus specifically. I mean, where? How? I would like someone to explain that to me!
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"Growing up in Texas, we learned two things. First, God loves you and he's going to send you to hell, and second, that sex is evil and dirty and wrong, and you should do it with the one you love. No wonder we're so screwed up down here."
not exactly worded the same, but you get the gist of it.
The overly simplistic attitude inherent in the answer from that book reminds me of that quote for some reason.
But then... that's what happens when for so long people have tried to make the Bible into a document that can be scientifically distilled into the correct theological statements. Aka fundamentalism.
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