my stupid rambly teal deer on age and timeline issues.

[bronevolence]

So Maka said something on plurk about character age differences and I was kind of like AHAHAHA sob because Koei is so ridiculous about character ages in my canon to begin with, and basically this is some random crap about age in DW and why it's ridiculous and also kind of depressing.

Comments

[spookmagnet]

. . . Liu Shan is playable now? I really do need to get the latest DW. The last one I played was 5.

[bronevolence]

He is! He has a badass pimpcoat and constantly looks kinda stoned. It's glorious.

[royalasskicking]

My adorable little boy, all grown up. :(

[bronevolence]

I was like OH FUCK THERE GOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD :( when I first heard he would be playable, because I kind of hate him in the novel, but I ended up liking him quite a bit in the game.

[skirtindanger]

My hobbies now include what sorts of comments I can tag you with that'll end up in you doing extensive research for your response, and seeing what kinds of offhand comments I make that'll get you to essay.

[bronevolence]

Cruel.

[skirtindanger]

I regret nothing.

[bronevolence]

THIS IS VERY UNBENEVOLENT OF YOU LADY MAKA

[kabukimono]

Yeah Ma Dai even says to Zhang Fei in his second legend stage that he's not a child like the rest of the people Zhang Fei's supposed to be testing, so he's definitely older.

And lol Xiahou Ba... at least the game lampshades his youthful appearance by calling him the Baby-Faced Warrior and making him wear that helmet because he's self-conscious about his looks.

But YES you are almost exactly right about second gen Shu being kids that've been dumped with their parent's legacy. Almost all of the second-gen Shu people aside from Ma Dai (and Jiang Wei I guess...) are related in some way by blood or by marriage to the men who built Shu and it's depressing to think of it that way. :(

[bronevolence]

Since Ma Chao is 21 and Ma Dai calls him "young master," that one was easy enough.

Jiang Wei isn't a Shu kid by blood, but I totally count Zhuge Liang as his honorary sorta-kinda-dad, because god knows he's obsessed enough with making him proud. And Kongming even calls him "my boy" at one point!

so basically shu makes me cry forever.

[kabukimono]

Ma Dai is so damned hot, every game needs him.

And yeah I consider Zhuge Liang and Boyue to have that same sort of adoptive/foster parent-child relationship, too. Even if Jiang Wei wasn't born and raised by him. :( (I guess technically born by Yue Ying...)

Shu needs Huang Zhong and Zhao Yun back.

[bronevolence]

Yes to basically everything in this comment.

But especially to Ma Dai's hotness. :d

[loveshiswang]

Koei and ages, the eternal torment. What bothers me the most is that Zhao is younger than Boyue but I apped him as older and @_@a

I kind of loathe Koei for the lack of official DW7 ages, but yeah, I'm pegging Sima Zhao at about 22-ish, and his brother is probably 25, even if Dad is apparently 24

I don't know
I hate this canon

you covered like every issue I have with Koei in this post

[bronevolence]

The Simas have finally taken the most ridiculous family crown away from the Suns! Maybe. The DW4 ages for the Sun family are still pretty ridiculous. Dad is 32! Ce is 24! Quan is 28 what is this I don't even.

fuckin' koei.