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Mar 24, 2008 17:42

What role does culture play in socialization?

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inthestill March 24 2008, 13:58:01 UTC
That the values and traditions passed on from generation to generation should always be seen in the context of culture and the time and space, history and biography of those doing the socializing? :-) That values, traditions, and of course culture is rooted in a specific time and space context so that each culture has its own cherished values and traditions that they decide to propagate?

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buggiemelon March 24 2008, 15:49:29 UTC
YAY! was hoping you'd comment, Mau. I read an anthropology book yesterday, "Understanding Diversity" and kinda had an info overload, but what stuck was that we socialized to share/pass on culture. (which is exactly what you said) But is culture really the FOCUS more than socialization? or is there a way to understand it in which we use culture for socialization? bwhaha am i making sense? is it a chicken-and-egg thing? hahaha

My thesis and department (FLCD) give so much importance to socialization more than culture, and when I think about it, i think the goal "should" be more on socialization because it's every person's basic need? like yeah it's true that people learn cultures because they socialize with others, but doesn't culture dictate in some way if socializations will continue happening or not?

or whatever comes first or last (socialization or culture) does not really imply which one is the main focus so i should just take it as it is? :p

Sorry if I confused you, I have a hard time articulating my thoughts. :p

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inthestill March 25 2008, 05:03:59 UTC
Chel, don't apologize! :-)

Well to be honest we have to recognize my biases, I don't believe no social scientist can be truly, completely objective. :-) I do come from a Sociology background, and seeing as Socio/Anthro are sister disciplines that's probably why I gave those kinds of insights. I'm kind of macro rin, personally, with the way I view things.

I don't think we can say there is one correct way of analyzing this and saying that one precedes the other - yup sounds to me like a chicken and egg argument. If your perspective in FLCD focuses on socialization, you should probably keep your thesis focused on the socialization processes (I assume FLCD is more micro in this context) and just use the arguments on culture as branches of the argument, so to speak. Is your thesis trying to prove that one precedes the other? If not, probably wouldn't be helpful to go into that. :-)

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inthestill March 25 2008, 13:27:19 UTC
Thanks a lot, Mau! :) learned a lot from you! haha you always get me to think!

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kar_2 March 24 2008, 16:01:00 UTC
Does this make sense? --> Culture is, in a way, the ground or arena in which socialization works. Socialization is about acquiring or assimilating culture. So a child brought up in a certain social group learns its culture, not just the rituals and traditions but also the social roles people play in his life as well as his own role/s in the social structure. He also learns to socialize by acquiring traditional/cultural ways of communicating (ex. greetings, language, etc.).

Culture is important in socialization because it becomes part of the individual's identity and history. In the process of socialization, a part of the individual is crafted and molded based on the culture he learns in the process. The culture he learns through socialization influences the way he lives his life and the way he interacts with people.

I also agree with inthestill - in a way, it is through socialization that culture is propagated.

-- Hope I made sense haha!

Thanks for your greeting Chel! Good luck with thesis :)

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buggiemelon March 24 2008, 16:36:28 UTC
yeah, that's what i was wondering, what role culture played in socialization! it's the ground/arena in which socialization works. That's the idea I always had in mind, though everything I read tells me it's otherwise-- that socialization breeds culture!

thanks for the luck, Karkar! I need it :) looking forward to talk to you soon. so much to dissect, I miss it! ;p

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kar_2 March 24 2008, 16:09:09 UTC
Ay haha - I think I took a different approach, sorry. I think I saw it from this perspective: "...Or is there a way to understand it in which we use culture for socialization?" But I get inthestill's perspective, though :D Possible ba kung iba-ibang approach? :)

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buggiemelon March 24 2008, 16:32:52 UTC
yeah, Kar! that's why I posted the question, because I wanted various perspectives... :) So far kasi the literature I've been reading on culture + socialization explains it the same way Mau (inthestill) did :) so thank you very much!!! see you soon ;)

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