One more thing...

May 23, 2007 11:46

This is one of my pet hates ( Read more... )

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tokificent May 23 2007, 04:34:17 UTC
Total word.

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bumbklaatt May 23 2007, 05:22:19 UTC
:)

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nayby May 23 2007, 05:26:12 UTC
There’s not very many political issues that I have a strong opinion about (and if I do I usually keep them to myself) but I believe that the education system needs a complete overhaul, and I also think that the Federal Government should be in charge of the whole education system, and all tests should be standardized ( ... )

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nerienda May 23 2007, 21:16:04 UTC
Sorry Nay, but.
1. In the Constitution, schools were given to the states to control. And the Federal Government would have us on Performance Pay, with no transfer system by the time you could blink - meaning no teachers in Western NSW.
2. Standardized tests suck for students - they do not give a fair view of students abilities - they judge those students on that day in an exam situation (where many students perform poorly anyway).
3. There should be some cohesiveness across states, I don't dispute that. But it should be states co-operating, not Federal mandate. Otherwise you just end up with many pissed off teachers being forced to change.

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bumbklaatt May 23 2007, 23:41:10 UTC
But you have to admit, the NSW Board of Education aren't really a shining light leading the way, are they?

There needs to be a massive overhaul of the state systems. The federal government aren't the ones to do it, but we need a strong education minister in NSW to do it.

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bumbklaatt May 23 2007, 23:37:21 UTC
I think it would be good if there was a cohesive system, but as Aimee said, the Federal Government are not the ones to do it.

That being said, the NSW Board of Education couldn't manage a root in a brothel with a $50 hanging out of their fly, so we have no hope of them ever organising anything.

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kately May 23 2007, 12:00:31 UTC
i am so with you on that one!! I think it is unrealistic to pull funding from private schools in this day and age... i just don't understand why they can't standardise school funding - i.e. have a particular amount 'per student' so-to-speak - and then take into consideration geographics, the state of school facilities etc etc, AND THEN offer further grants for clearly disadvantaged schools.

I dunno... surely there is a fairer alternative...

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nerienda May 23 2007, 21:11:24 UTC
They do have an amount per student that they increased spending by - $1 for every public school student and $5 for every private school student.

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bumbklaatt May 23 2007, 23:35:43 UTC
The 'voucher' system of education has been proposed before, but there has never been a cohesive argument put forward.

Mainly because the majority of politians, and their children, attend private schools.

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fiery_ichor June 11 2007, 10:33:31 UTC
as an education student I did an assignment on Private vs public funding last year in EDUC1004 Contexts of Teaching (sociology, politics, inequality etc). If you'd like me to email it to you, let me know.

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aussiemandias May 23 2007, 14:08:35 UTC

Please consider the fact that over 30% of students in non-government schools are from families whose income is under $41,600. These are not the elite of society.

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nerienda May 23 2007, 21:12:06 UTC
But they wouldn't need private school if public schools had the same advantages.

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bumbklaatt May 24 2007, 04:19:22 UTC
There is absolutely no question that the NSW Board of Education, and the state government, are completely fucking useless.

However, the majority of private schools do earn a lot of money from fees collected from parents. The amount they collect far supersedes the amount allocated per student in the public system.

So therefore, they do have more advantages, because they simply have more money to spend on their students.

It all comes back to the argument of Federal funds allocation. Under the GST, States were to receive back the money raised in their State from GST revenue.

Currently, NSW receives less, because Queensland receives more.

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nerienda May 23 2007, 21:16:55 UTC
Think I've said enough without ranting. :)

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bumbklaatt May 26 2007, 03:38:05 UTC
Almost :p

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