just cause it's saved doesn't mean it has value

Apr 21, 2009 23:36

I've been archiving my Internet activity on my own server for a while now. I think I was one of the first blogs that aggregated data from all over the internet into one spot, but now it's all over the place. Today, the server that was collecting and storing all this information seemed to have disappeared due to a forgotten username, password, and ( Read more... )

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asabass April 22 2009, 07:45:23 UTC
I say save it, though not necessarily in a publicly accessible place. One of my Pet Fears is the idea that in the distant future, there will be almost no record of us and our ordinary lives because we create so few tangible, physical artifacts. No one writes letters, all of our photos live on our computers. And of course, we're moving farther away from the tangible (analog?) all the time.

Admittedly, this is a knee jerk reaction and I haven't really thought it through. And you keeping your old Internet Ephemera doesn't really address what I'm saying.

I guess all I'm really saying is that my first reaction is to conserve rather than delete.

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buster April 22 2009, 17:16:17 UTC
Oh, I wouldn't delete it. Yesterday, when I thought it was deleted, though, I didn't really mourn it a whole lot. So I'm somewhere in the middle. I will find something interesting to do with it...

And, regarding your pet fear. We have plenty of tangible artifacts. Those photos and letters from the past are a tiny fraction of the artifacts left by the past, especially since they're all only a couple hundred years old at the least.

Our plastic bags and batteries will be our legacy.

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asabass April 22 2009, 17:58:36 UTC
I'm planning on etching the contents of my LJ onto stone tablets just in case.

I'm expecting a religion to spring up around them in about a thousand years.

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buster April 22 2009, 17:59:53 UTC
A thousand years? Heck, I'm ready to join your religion today! Especially if you tell me more about this New Regime stuff.

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buster April 22 2009, 17:16:54 UTC
I'll definitely save it. But what will I DO with it?

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revitalizing microfilm joshc April 22 2009, 14:59:53 UTC
print it out into a set of volumes with very small type?

this makes me realize that none of my internet is on my own space/disks/cloud/whatever. you could make this into a little piece of software for incompetent wannabe internet packrats like me.

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Re: revitalizing microfilm buster April 22 2009, 17:18:50 UTC
I did make such a tool. I was archiving entries for a bunch of people for a while, but nobody really knew what to do with the archives, so they weren't upset when I stopped archiving.

The problem, though, is that it's a lot easier to harvest online content when it's fresh, and accessible via RSS feeds (that only have the 20 or so most recent entries), and much more difficult to go back and get the full catalog. I wrote specific tools to do it for Flickr and Typepad, and had previously done it for other online blogging tools I had made, but it's not fun.

The best we could do is begin archiving your stuff as of today.

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sadotter April 22 2009, 16:36:49 UTC
I'd be pretty sure you'd want it for your own archival purposes, no? From a useful perspective: to have a searchable history of your life. Electronic memory instead of brain memory. From an emotional perspective: to go back and look through at some point in your life. I mean, do tangible photo albums serve some purpose other than that? No, but we keep them around anyway to page through and show people down the road.

Beside, what's the actual cost/space requirement to keep this stuff around? Pretty small, right? I mean, you don't have to make it all user-friendly and publicly viewable, but it'd be pretty easy to keep it around somewhere in a Buster-readable format, wouldn't it?

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buster April 22 2009, 17:21:15 UTC
I'll definitely keep it. While I'm no packrat, I like to store things that take no space.

What I'm sort of interested in exploring though is ways to bubble up interesting trends from this. Maybe explore Markov chains and the ability to pre-write entries. Or pass them all through a word analysis filter to see when certain words started being used. Or just put a really interesting search engine on top of it. With lots of graphs and things. A living time machine.

I don't really know. But I am interested in thinking about it for a bit!

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Do an "on this day"? laurelfan April 23 2009, 00:16:07 UTC
Photojojo has a service where every month they'll send you some of your flickr photos from last year. It's every two weeks, which seems to be a pretty good frequency so that I am pleasantly surprised every time I get one.

One of my coworkers used to have an "on this day" on her public personal blog (her blog is actually not public anymore) that would show posts from the same day from the past few years.

Or to imitate the associative and random nature of memory, have some script that will look at your current output and send you something related from your past.

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Re: Do an "on this day"? buster April 23 2009, 00:18:10 UTC
I've got that on bustermcleod.com already. :) I do check it pretty often. But it seems more like a way to read random old entries more than a correlation to the day...

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ralphduggins June 21 2009, 19:00:55 UTC
I'm new here, just wanted to say hello and introduce myself.

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