Comments | bytwilight17: This journal is probably going to turn into my rants on American culture.

bytwilight17

This journal is probably going to turn into my rants on American culture.

Nov 24, 2005 09:04

I was lying awake, thinking about a commercial on TV I saw the other day, when I realized: it’s shows like “The Swan” that cause me to believe that American society is really going downhill. “The Swan” is fostering a discourse in American culture that I have always been fighting against: that, externally, ugly=bad and beauty=good. But even more ( Read more... )

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boter November 24 2005, 15:13:08 UTC

This journal is probably going to turn into my rants on American culture.

AWESOME! I love those.

Well, I'm going to object to the "no clothes" thing on the surface basis of it being a form of expression. I don't wear what I do because I think it makes me cool or anything; I wear it because I express myself. Do some clothes reflect my self-image better than others? Yes, I'll admit that.

I do agree, though. Every decade, it seems like something is dragging down American culture further into the abyss. We flatter ourselves in this decade to think we're the end-all of it, but ignoring that large chronological scale for now, I agree that looks really don't matter. And too many people are influenced by society to think that they doAnd Steph, keep your ideals. (Holy crap, there are too many Stephs in the world.) I cling to mine every day. Sometimes they're all that will get you through. I, personally, have my own ideals, and I try to influence people to follow them. And sometimes, it's worked. I try to lead by example, following my ideals ( ... )

bytwilight17 November 24 2005, 16:53:53 UTC

Awesome. I will hold onto my ideals.

impendingdoom71 November 24 2005, 16:38:14 UTC

it's good to know other people are outraged. From time to time.

bytwilight17 November 24 2005, 16:54:15 UTC

I'm outraged a lot. Now I felt compelled to speak up about it.

theycallmekath November 24 2005, 17:13:24 UTC

I'm glad someone put this to words, for it is something that I believe in as well, and I don't think anybody could have done a better job :)

bytwilight17 November 24 2005, 18:48:02 UTC

Aww, thanks. =) I love you!

bluecomb56 November 25 2005, 02:49:49 UTC

allow me, if you will, to play devils advocate. i would argue that the swan has it right up to a point. i dont think plastic surgery is the devil. i think it is fine when done in moderation, and, like anything else is society it is bad when done too much. the fact that these women are embarrassed by their looks and they are given a second chance is fantastic. when you then put them in a beauty pageant and parade around their plastic surgery is where the problem comes from. why not give these people an opportunity to be able to look in the mirror ( ... )

boter November 25 2005, 02:59:46 UTC

Okay, I suppose I can agree with you there. It is a problem in society, but completely turning around might not be the answer.

bytwilight17 November 25 2005, 14:28:53 UTC

Plastic surgery isn't the devil. If it weren't for plastic surgery, my cousin would not have his nose looking exactly the same as it did before he got in a terrible motorcycle accident. It is plastic surgery for the sake of feeling better about yourself that I disagree with. Yes, the women are embarassed by their looks and our society projects that looks matter much more than they should. But in reality, looks don't last, one must learn to love THEMSELVES as people. Only then can they hope to love who they are on the outside. Part of the problem is these women feel ashamed about their personalities because of their exteriors. When they are 80 years old, then will they feel ashamed about themselves again just because their supermodel looks are gone? This is where "The Swan's" real problems lie ( ... )

bluecomb56 November 25 2005, 18:02:21 UTC

im not saying base a relationship on physical attraction. im saying the initial attraction has to be there, at least from my perspective, or it becomes difficult for me to pursue it further. call me shallow if you like, but thats what i think. when i see a girl from across the room at a party, i dont say, "wow, what a great personality." i say, shes good looking, im going to go talk to her. sometimes shes a bitch, sometimes shes cool. but i have to think shes good looking or else i wont talk to her. and im not talking model type looks, im talking about someone i, adam j kane, thinks is attractive ( ... )

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so true anonymous November 25 2005, 12:35:54 UTC

i think this is so true, im glad for once someone has broken out of the mold and spoke up upon the subject. because im sure everyone feels the same way. it is ridiculous and pathetic that this is what american culture and society is turning into. we need to change for the better to do anything in this world effectively