It's a long 'un!

Jan 27, 2004 00:55

Okay, I have now deleted the beginings of the original journal that I wanted to post here. Let's just say that I was upset, and that it was whiney and full of self pity. Also livid anger. But, as I usually try to do, I am making the attempt not to say things I don't mean in a non-rant post. More about my rants later ( Read more... )

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calypsomyst January 27 2004, 13:15:48 UTC
Expected, I wouldn't have it otherwise. Actually, as far as engaging in intelligent debate, you're one of the best frequenters of my journal. And seriously, I never set out to upset you...we just have a lot of very strong, conflicting opinions.

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dykedesuyo January 27 2004, 10:56:01 UTC
You're completely right that you have a right to voice your own oppinion, and I agree with you on James' cute, but mildly misguided idea of "ladylike" behavior. However, you're trying to have your cake and eat it too in wanting to hold very strong, unmoving possitions on things and then wanting to be percieved as empathetic. When you blatently admit that you don't like large groups of people because of your own personal beliefs about those groups, and when you voice such hate against people within them, you are no longer a compassionate, empathetic person. Please don't hear that as an insult, it's not meant to be, I'm just saying that a choice needs to be made between the two. Don't take this to mean that I'm calling you callus or insensitive toward individuals, I'm sure you aren't, but from reading what I have of your livejournal you come off as very insensitive and, frankly, hateful toward things, actions, and people that you don't care for. Strong oppinions are cool, I have my own set in stone, but to be empathetic you have to ( ... )

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calypsomyst January 27 2004, 13:24:54 UTC
True enough. With individuals, I judge on a case by case basis and I won't hold one aspect of a person that I dislike. However, when I start going after GROUPS that I think shouldn't exist, I take a rather stone cold stance. I don't actually hate any individual person....but I do think they would be better off without the groups they're involved in.

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msmarvel1 January 27 2004, 20:14:35 UTC
When you blatently admit that you don't like large groups of people because of your own personal beliefs about those groups, and when you voice such hate against people within them, you are no longer a compassionate, empathetic person.Well, not necessarily. For example, I'm pro-choice and I have a lot of problems with the pro-life movement (i.e. killing doctors, posting huge pictures of aborted babies on street corners, etc.). I've gone into rants about them before. Yet despite my problems with their behavior (or rather, the loudest among them's behavior) I do understand where they're coming from. After all, if you believe abortion is murder, and murder is wrong, then you're necessarily going to want to prevent it from happening and save the innocent babies and all that stuff. I respect that. A good friend of mine is an abortion protester actually (although thankfully she doesn't kill doctors and puts pictures of living, healthy and cute babies on her sandwich boards). Yet I still don't agree with them despite the fact that I ( ... )

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You are one of the most compassonate people I know! courtneyrules08 January 27 2004, 12:49:32 UTC
First off, I just want to say that I do not believe you cannot rant and express over the top ideals and be a caring person at the same time. I have personally know Lex for years. She is a woman of strong convictions, but has never turned a person aways because they do not fit her idea of perfection. This is the same Lex that spent days among days with a CHEERLEADER, that fit all stereotypes of the word (and we all know how much she does not agree with these folk) trying to calm her, ease her pain, and make her feel important! This journal is an outlet to vent such outrageous ideas, then reflect on them and move about in your life in a healthy, constructive manner. You cannot judge a person solely on a ranting journal entry. I honestly do not think it matters how her LJ makes her appear to people. Knowing Lex as a whole is what matters. She is the kind of person who would see a drunken prep on the side of the street and ask him if he needed a ride. She may not agree with your opinions or life style, but she will respect it and ( ... )

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Re: You are one of the most compassonate people I know! calypsomyst January 27 2004, 14:01:25 UTC
As always Courtney, you are the pinacle of awesomeness

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Even compassionate people can smell evil. scumbone January 27 2004, 19:50:02 UTC
I wonder if this topic would even be an issue if you never met me. Maybe I influence you in the direction of absolutism. Likely. But still...you're a person who has almost been moved to tears because a stuffed kitten was all alone in a toy rack,and you had to place it among the tigers so it could have a friend.Or was that me? All i know is that you're extremely empathic, but no longer afraid to take a stand and say that certain people and certain courses of action are,indeed,wrong. I've even had to try to temper some of your convictions, yet still i get accused of being the monster. So be it.
While I can be amazingly understanding, and in fact HAVE to be at my job, I can also tell when someone is simply a scumbag, or an unrepentant addict, or a pathological conformist,etc. Now, so can you. These people don't have any concept of introspection, therefore they are no longer technically sentient. When people allow that to happen themselves, the world is better off without them.

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Re: Even compassionate people can smell evil. calypsomyst January 27 2004, 21:13:27 UTC
Whether this would be an issue or not without your involvement aside, you've given me the courage and drive to change for the better. You've influenced me, yes, but in a good way. You've made me a much stronger person, one who is willing to stand up for myself and my convictions. It's a good thing. True, I let my newfound strength run a little rampant over the pot issue, but you brought me around on that. You're helpy!

Oh yeah, and the stuffed kitten in the toy store was me...it was lonely. o_o

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More validation z0mbarella January 27 2004, 22:09:49 UTC
Even the most compassionate people have things that irritate the shit out of them. I don't always agree with you, but the arguing/debating stuff is fun. (Usually it's the most intellectual stimulation I get all week.) If I were deeply offended I'd either call you a bitch or unfriend you. So, keep speaking your mind!

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