I have feelings. Let me share them with you.

[canadasuperhero]

I am unsure of my feelings on the US Sherlock casting. fyi.

Let us start with Watson. Or actually, let's start with a cut-tag because this was longer then I thought and I do actually like you, my flist.

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[skylilies]

i agree with all of this, yo.

[canadasuperhero]

I don't often get this wordy on situations I can't change (this TV series is going to happen or not completely without my input) but there is so much speculation on the matter sitting on either side of the fence and it just seemed like people were going for either 'no! Watson is a man! If he isn't then the dynamic chaaaanges' as if a change in character dynamic is inherently bad or 'No! They will turn it into a romance' which makes me want to remind the fandom that they are almost rabid about Sherlock and John being a couple to the point where I avoid the fandom and while I too dislike the idea of the show turning into The Holmes and Watson UST Hour there is a possibility it wont/flails hands at you. I have FEELINGS OF FRUSTRATION with fandom, Sky. FEELINGS

[skylilies]

THAT THIRD PARAGRAPH, BASICALLY I WANT ALL OF THIS TOO.

but my cynical view of tv makes me pretty sure it won't happen. ugh.
(what i want to see is a sherlock holmes where everyone is genderswapped.) (can you imagine how many people would flip out if they'd make sherlock a woman? a logical, brilliant woman?)

[canadasuperhero]

YES. SEE. Mmmm. This is sort of why I like reboot Kono from Hawaii 5-0 even if goddammit she is used for teh sexah a lot. For one because a lot of the time she still kicks ass and is as crazy as Steve while somehow having more common sense and also the show has actually pointed out that she's getting the crap jobs and that it is crap. Sometimes I get frustrated with the outfits she wears undercover but I love that her everyday outfit is ...jeans. and a tank. EXACTLY what the male characters wear

[rivlee]

Word to everything here. You address a lot of my own ~issues with the whole thing.

Re: Lucy Liu, I will forever love her for Kill Bill (I think she did an amazing job of displaying all levels of emotions and personalities in what little screen time she had) but as far as I've heard, she's also done a damn good job in Southland this season. All I know Jonny Lee Miller from is being an ex-husband of Angelina Jolie. (Which is sad, since I'm sure he's done quite a lot, but that's all I know him from.)

I will say, the one good thing about CBS claiming the show (as of right now, lord knows if that will hold) is that, in general, on their legal/crime dramas, they like to avoid romantic relationships between the main two lead characters. If they do go that way, it's for the later season. Now, granted, I've never watched Unforgettable or A Gifted Man, whose producers/creators are responsible for the re-vamp, but I'll cling to any little bit of hope I can.

[canadasuperhero]

I was going to ask 'why can't we just write Watson as Watson' before realizing how utterly ridiculous of me that was and that got me thinking.

I've never seen her in Kill Bill; I tried watching but Quentin Tarantino and I have a rough relationship filled with mutual hatred. i am glad to know there is someone who can vouch for her acting in a show that isn't all about being a sexy woman (ie Southland) and on portraying emotion! It makes me hope that there is something that she can do with the role and that she might voice opinions on the character based in her own experiences as a Chinese-American woman.

CBS is pretty good about that! If it were Fox (Fox, Fox. Why. Bones was so awesome and the early interaction between Brennan and Booth was exactly what I was talking about when I meant opposite sexes could have cool non-sexual relationships and then you bombed out on meeee) or the US Network I'd start inching away but I guess it depends on if CBS is going to see this as a crime drama and not ... a romp that happens to contain some

[megyal]

but Quentin Tarantino and I have a rough relationship filled with mutual hatred. SAAAAAAMMME

Although he doesn't know me so I hate him more

[canadasuperhero]

HAHAHAHA I love that it's a contest. FUCK YOU TARANTINO, MEGYAL WINS ALL YOUR AWARDS.

[megyal]

...wait, why do we need a US version of Sherlock? Why do we need a US version of anything? I'm more perplexed than facetious, but Being Human (US version) and Top Gear (US version) are both shows I've never watched and refuse to because there is already one like it and I have only so much time and if I had to choose an accent to listen to it would be the UK one because I hear the US one nearly 99% of the time anyway. There actually are more reasons better than this that I have in my head, but that's the only one that came to me. I mean...are the UK shows that nontransferable that they have to make a special version for the US, or vice-versa? (Granted, I think they did have Friends-like show on UK tv one time.) Or is it some legal thing that transcends my understanding?

I'm not bashing the US I swear this Ray I am just wondering

ETA: I would also like to learn more about Gender Issues in the military.

[canadasuperhero]

They have a US version of a lot of things; I couldn't really tell you why, Meg. I find a lot of them to be very difficult to watch because they lack difference in anything except actors. I don't think there;s something about the UK shows they decide to remake that is nontransferable which is probably why they remake them. It's my belief that if the core idea of the show is so British as to be something completely different in the remake (take Monty Python. The humour in it is just so different that it becomes a cult classic instead) then US producers see no reason in remaking it

[megyal]

lol WE ARE AMERICCAAAA

Ray, I can't WAIT to see the Actual Post, seriously.

[canadasuperhero]

I am admittedly seeing that from an outsider perspective of America but I'm going to go ahead and do it since I'm basically their hat anyway.

I'm going to end up probably throwing in my utter disgust that the Royal Canadian Mountain Police only let women join the forces TEN YEARS before I was born, just so people understand that I'm aware we aren't perfect either but lklkdjflkgslgkfg TREATMENT TOWARDS WOMEN. (FLAILS HANDS AND STAYS AWAY FROM FOX NEWS) I thought that, being a person, I would understand other people but I just do. not. How can there be people who threaten rape as a form of displaying their displeasure with someone? How can there be women in the military being RAPED. TOO. MUCH. I don't understand and that will probably make the Actual Post a lot less coherent but I will damned well try.

[profcricket]

Rex Stout - author of the Nero Wolfe mysteries, who maintained that Wolfe was the illegitimate child of Holmes and Irene Adler - nearly got himself thrown out of the Baker Street Irregulars with a speech called "Watson Was a Woman," in which he went to great pains to point out all of the places where ACD suggested just that. They were pissed. If I can find the link, I will.

See, I like the idea of Watson as a woman - but one who disguises her gender and lives like a man. It would have been necessary in the 19th century, if a female Watson had wanted to attend medical school, serve in the military, and live, unmarried, with an unmarried man. I'm working on a H/W fic that deals with this particular situation.

But just casting Watson as a woman for nothing but stunt casting? Er, NO.

[canadasuperhero]

/chinhands This is of interest to me! Especially after I tried to explain why this was of interest to me and my brother replied that the idea was 'disgusting' because Watson got married. (>:|) Now I'd like to hear if he explains it and if my attempts at explaining it were the same as his because I am just. I am sitting here and I go 'what a clever way for Female Watson and Mary to get themselves some freedom'. Watson is already experiencing freedom (sort...of) as a man able to make the choices and decisions she does but to get married gets people off her back. And Mary. Married women had 'more freedom' in their movements anyway and lflkjgkqerlknf I would read the shit out of that. I would. My mind is exploding

[profcricket]

You hate your family only sometimes? You lucky duck. Seriously - I adored my aunt, and have much fondness for my cousins, but I've no use at all for my father or my sister. Grrrr

[profcricket]

Part two of my ridiculously long comment