That right there is why I don't like the Patriot Act even MORE than I don't like anti-war protesters. But...what if they were like the ELF and actually had sponsored terrorism in some way...it's such a fine line, I think.
good point. Not trying to be cynical here, but: So then after a group commits an act of terrorism then we could legally infiltrate it? Again, I think it's touchy...but a good point none the less.
After there is Probable Cause that the group is involved in terrorist activity, similar to the probable cause required to bust a drug dealer.
And remember, thinking about and planning a murder doesn't constitute murder in this country. We can't punish intent. Thats a very slippery slope to start wandering down.
There are consequences of things like this, obviously. Most certainly, there are situations where a life could be saved, or many lives even, by ignoring this doctrine. But we have to remember why we have it in the first place.
Protecting freedom doesn't matter if in order to do so, that freedom must be taken away.
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Such infiltrations operate from a presumption of guilt, IMHO, and are therefore, untenable, even when later found to be justified.
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And remember, thinking about and planning a murder doesn't constitute murder in this country. We can't punish intent. Thats a very slippery slope to start wandering down.
There are consequences of things like this, obviously. Most certainly, there are situations where a life could be saved, or many lives even, by ignoring this doctrine. But we have to remember why we have it in the first place.
Protecting freedom doesn't matter if in order to do so, that freedom must be taken away.
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