Perseus Jackson vs Wolfy McWolface
I can't figure out why I'm more annoyed with the Percy Jackson characters not figuring out who "Perseus Jackson"'s father is, but not with the Harry Potter characters for not figuring out that the werewolf was "Wolfy McWolface"
I think it's that Lupin's name was clearly supposed to be out-of-universe knowledge. Obviously the characters might know plenty of Latin, but there wasn't a sequence of events where he was called that BECAUSE he was bitten by a werewolf. So I'm happy to treat it as a narrative convention, just like I don't ask, "how come all these novels have a statistically improbably narratively meaningful ending?"
Whereas from book 1, it feels likely that Perseus' name wasn't massive coincidence, but was given by his mother BECAUSE his father was Poseidon. And it makes sense that he didn't make that connection, but CHIRON didn't?
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Or maybe "Perseus" is just such a common name for demigods now it didn't come up?
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In fact, there's a wider literary point here, which is that books are often interesting if there's hints that the reader can pick up on and suspect a connection but not be sure of, or make an unlikely connection.
But having it work depends on how much the reader knows and how much genre awareness the reader has. Hints for a 10-year-old who hasn't read many books will be different to hints in book 2 of 3 you expect a dedicated subreddit to spend 10 years analysing in extreme depth.
And if the hint lands emotionally, you tend not to pick apart the logic, but if it doesn't we often get pedantic, even if it's not less logical, just less interesting to us personally.
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Even now, I often find myself really interested in books that FEEL difficult to figure out, even if the difficulty is in piecing together what they're saying, as well as or instead of the complexity of what they're saying.
I always think of Too Like the Lightning here -- I was SO INTERESTED in it, despite the fact that almost every plot point made me vehemently denounce it But they were all INTERESTING because they raised interesting questions, about that world and about our world. You can also comment at https://jack.dreamwidth.org/1129546.html using OpenID.
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I think it's that Lupin's name was clearly supposed to be out-of-universe knowledge. Obviously the characters might know plenty of Latin, but there wasn't a sequence of events where he was called that BECAUSE he was bitten by a werewolf. So I'm happy to treat it as a narrative convention, just like I don't ask, "how come all these novels have a statistically improbably narratively meaningful ending?"
Whereas from book 1, it feels likely that Perseus' name wasn't massive coincidence, but was given by his mother BECAUSE his father was Poseidon. And it makes sense that he didn't make that connection, but CHIRON didn't?
--
Or maybe "Perseus" is just such a common name for demigods now it didn't come up?
--
In fact, there's a wider literary point here, which is that books are often interesting if there's hints that the reader can pick up on and suspect a connection but not be sure of, or make an unlikely connection.
But having it work depends on how much the reader knows and how much genre awareness the reader has. Hints for a 10-year-old who hasn't read many books will be different to hints in book 2 of 3 you expect a dedicated subreddit to spend 10 years analysing in extreme depth.
And if the hint lands emotionally, you tend not to pick apart the logic, but if it doesn't we often get pedantic, even if it's not less logical, just less interesting to us personally.
--
Even now, I often find myself really interested in books that FEEL difficult to figure out, even if the difficulty is in piecing together what they're saying, as well as or instead of the complexity of what they're saying.
I always think of Too Like the Lightning here -- I was SO INTERESTED in it, despite the fact that almost every plot point made me vehemently denounce it But they were all INTERESTING because they raised interesting questions, about that world and about our world. You can also comment at https://jack.dreamwidth.org/1129546.html using OpenID.
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