Brain Music Therapy

Nov 16, 2006 08:59

This morning as I was getting ready for work, the Today Show did a segment on this new medical treatment in neuropsychiatry called Brain Music Therapy ( Read more... )

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ichijoji_chan November 16 2006, 15:45:39 UTC
It sounds like a scam, Jen.
If you want to waste money on such thing, buy a "mind machine" off ebay for 7 bucks. They come up under the category "Biofeedback" even though they are not actually biofeedback devices.
The best value in Biofeedback hardware and software is the game I keep trying to sell on people. That IS why I bought it myself after all. It works and it much cheaper than this brain music stuff.

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catgirlpink November 16 2006, 17:28:54 UTC
Aww, don't you wanna hear what your brain sounds like? I'm curious. >^_^<

But yeah, I don't think I'll be spending money for such a thing either way. I'm gonna be tapped out anyway just getting the supplies I need to make Christmas stuff for everyone I can this year. Ouchness.

But maybe I could add the game to my Christmas list, just in case.. I need to make a list for my parents of things I would care to own, and see if they could get any of them for me. Mom is still convinced that I need an air conditioner, and Dad and I are still trying to tell her that I don't need that. If she's going to use that much money, there are much better things to get. Anyway, is the game just "Wild Divine", or is it spelled all funky like "Wylde" or whatnot?

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ichijoji_chan November 16 2006, 19:15:18 UTC
Normal spelling, Journey to the Wild Divine. Make sure you get "The passage". There are other games in the sires, but that is the first, and the only one that comes with the needed hardware.

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catgirlpink November 16 2006, 19:42:51 UTC
Oh ok. Thanks. >^_^< .

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bubbajam November 16 2006, 20:21:39 UTC
Everything about that sounds like a scam, why in the world should that work?

Why in the world would your brain have the ability to recognize sounds as translations of your brainwaves and translate them back to brainwaves? In the past million years when would that capability have been used before this machine was invented?

Why would the human brain have this as a built in feature? the ability to somehow have it that if you attached electrodes to the skin that the electricity that HAPPENED to be from parts of the brain close enough to the outside of the brain to be recorded (as averaged with every other signal by in the transport) that if it was converted somehow to music that it would somehow be in a format the ears recognized as something to treat special?

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catgirlpink November 16 2006, 21:22:46 UTC
There's a lot of stuff you could ask very similar questions about.
Why have many things developed anything that they've developed? Why in the world did any insects or other small creatures develop enough toxins to kill humans? Are they going to eat the human? Dos killing the human help them in any way whatsoever? Why on earth would they develop what they've developed?

Meh. Who knows. And maybe it only works 'cause people think it will. Big deal. Who cares? I still think it would just be fascinating to hear what music your brain could make.

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bubbajam November 16 2006, 22:14:10 UTC
Because the toxins don't target any animal in particular, they work by stopping nerves from working, halting nerve action is enough to kill an animal large or small. The really bad ones don't stick so that one molecule can stop many many nerves, meaning size is irrelevantly and the same chemical could kill a mouse or an elephant equally well. Others it's simply a fact that you can't really lose all that many nerves and be okay. Thats no mystery.

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catgirlpink November 17 2006, 13:31:01 UTC
Not all toxins work the same way. But ok.

You know what's fascinating though? The venom of the funnel web spider. It's venom contains many many proteins that do target specific species. Scientists found that only specific proteins in the venom became active in certain species, while all the others remainedi inactive. There's one protien that targets only grasshoppers, and one that targets only cockroaches, and one that targets only mammals, etc. Some people were trying to use it to make safe pesticides.

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tsunamidragon November 20 2006, 14:48:57 UTC
Actually, maybe there's nothing to the "treatment" but then again, music DOES cause effects in people, and it is different in diferent people. AND peoples brainwaves DO change over time, or fluxuate. What sounds good to you one day might not sound apealing as much down the road. and I wouldn't doubt that the effect has something to do with brain activity and how the music affects.. Maybe there is something to this.. the right music can alter the mood and maybe they found a way to enhance that based on brainwave patterns..

Can you say they are wrong without trying it? Not really, you and I can only guess, and make judgements without knowing for sure. They might be on to something, they might be full of bulls**t..

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ichijoji_chan November 21 2006, 04:31:09 UTC
Thank goodness I don't need to try everything before making a educated judgment on it ( ... )

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tsunamidragon November 21 2006, 13:06:00 UTC
i wouldn't have the money to give anyways..

Not saying i'm "buying" into it, just saying there could be something to it and your just paranoid enough that it's a scam, you would never believe it even if there were scientific evidence..

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catgirlpink November 21 2006, 14:06:50 UTC
I wouldn't have the money to give either. Nope nope, way too poor for that. I've got more important things to take it all up right now. *sigh*

I seriously do not understand why money became such a huge part of this conversation. Everyone else is entirely missing the point of this post by like 800 miles here. I still think it would be really cool to see what kind of music your brain makes, I'd love to see it. I'd totally do it if it were free or pretty cheap. I wouldn't mind seeing if it affected my mood any either. I'm just curious, and I think it's cool. Think of it like a display at the Boston Museum of Science or something. Wouldn't you be excited to go play with it and see?

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