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May 23, 2007 10:33

Some days I can't help thinking about things, and I become overwhelmed by how much I hate this world. I hate the things that are allowed to go on in it. I wish I was a being with the capacity to punish people when they insist on hurting and damaging, and no one can do anything about it. I wish I could help people when no one else will, when no ( Read more... )

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ichijoji_chan May 23 2007, 19:21:10 UTC
Perhaps you should contact Patrick about these things; he studies law a lot.
Punishment does NOT work well to change behavior. Besides being cruel, it is simply ineffective.
Hey, why not give the little munchkins disposable cameras? They can take pictures of their foster parents smoking, take pictures of the meals they are given, and anything else that bugs them.

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catgirlpink May 23 2007, 19:31:13 UTC
I doubt the legal system even gives a damn in the face of photos. Proof? Why do they need proof of something they don't care about? If they don't want to help you or make a case they won't. "Screw you, who cares about the law. How dare you make a fuss over injustice, you interrupted my slacking."

Besides, the kids are too little. Under 3 years and 1.5 years, I believe. They wouldn't be able to take photos. They wouldn't have the focus to take any useful shots, and the guilty adults probably wouldn't even have to worry about taking the cameras away before the kids just dropped them somewhere and forgot all about them.

Who cares if punishment is not an effective behavior changer. People won't change. Not at that age. The important part is that they ought to be locked up where they cannot harm any more children.

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zeussimeoni May 23 2007, 20:22:51 UTC
Law.. is unfortunately meaningless in some cases ( ... )

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exaggeration17a May 24 2007, 01:08:29 UTC
Did someone say my name? :-)

Most of my knowledge of the legal system comes from my Dad, and one of his favorite quotes comes from a murderer, spoken just before his execution: "the system doesn't work, because the system doesn't want to work." Regretfully, that's pretty much true, as are the sentiments Jen and Zeus have expressed ( ... )

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zeussimeoni May 23 2007, 20:32:38 UTC
oh, I also wanted to mention complete agreement on the overall theme of the post. And that is... people should know what the hell they've done to people ( ... )

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catgirlpink May 23 2007, 20:43:10 UTC
If their idea of protecting children is to take them away from a perfectly healthy, loving parent and give them to "trailer trash", sexually abusive smokers, then they should commit suicide. Do the world a favor. Children everywhere would be so much safer.

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ichijoji_chan May 24 2007, 00:27:26 UTC
This stuff just doesn't add up.
What's missing from this data?
What were you (Zeus) accused of, and what was the evidence?
And if suspicion is enough to get the kids taken away from you, why isn't it enough to get them taken away from their foster parents?
Also, is there actual evidence of sexual abuse? Can you demand a medical examination of the kids? I really know nothing of this area.
It probably comes down to money, everything does.
My parents were horrible parents, but they had jobs and therefore enough money to keep a roof over our heads and a variety of pasta shapes on our table, and so we were never taken away. Mom would say "Do you want to be taken away?" Or "Do you want DHS to take you away?" We didn't even know what DHS was, but it kept us quiet.

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zeussimeoni May 24 2007, 14:28:25 UTC
1). What was I accused of? It depends on what day you're talking about. Firstly, I was accused of frightening a friend of mine. He had betrayed me and almost everyone I knew. Aaron had decided that having an affair with my mentally unstable wife was more important than my friendship of several years, or the friendship of anyone that I knew. So I went over to talk to him about it. Nothing dangerous happened fortunately, but he got scared so DHHS was called as revenge (most likely he didn't like actually being held accountable for his actions). Whether it was him, or decha, I have no idea. Doesn't really matter. It was a revenge call, and it had nothing to do with the children ( ... )

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soggyfroggy May 28 2007, 00:30:24 UTC
i'd like to speak on behalf of social workers, since that is my major and I have interned at DHS, so I have some experience with the system ( ... )

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zeussimeoni May 30 2007, 13:46:06 UTC
The problem I have with the bangor DHHS.. (which I have heard from multiple sources is the worst in the state as far as "yank your kids away with little reason") is that at no point are the kids any concern to the workers in any regard. They really aren't ( ... )

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