as if "Greedo Shoots First" (GSF) wasn't insult enough

[cathaarsix]

i saw the final installment of the Star Wars franchise on Saturday, and here's my take: deeply flawed. one the whole, it was worth my seven dollars, if only beause i can now complain about how terrible the movie was. a few points which were particulalry eggregious

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[tetetetigi]

Vader then, upon learning of his wife's death (and his alleged responsibility) cries out, in perhaps the most disappointingly cliched moments in all film history, "NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!" arms upraised, camera pulling out.
I lost it there. It was all intense for twenty minutes before then and then suddenly YOU DROP THE FOURTH WALL, GEORGE, and have a scene like that. I snickered.

[cathaarsix]

i was just sort of appaled, staring at the screen, mouth agape, at this particular scene. i needed time to process just how bad it was...

[cathaarsix]

oh yeah; that was so so so bad. but that was a mroe enjoyable kind of bad. if they make Padme look moronic, i'm not too bothered. but making Darth Vader look like Frankenstein? now that's just unforgiveable.

[cathaarsix]

as if the whole FORCE=BACTERIAL INFECTION nonsense of the midichlorians couldn't have gotten any stupider, George Lucas proves, once again, that he's up to the task of destroying great ideas, and making stupid ones even stupider.

[cathaarsix]

i think the implication that a Sith lord could spntaneously generate life was another in a string of utterly preposterous ideas that totally, totally ruined the concept of the Force. another crappy idea on a pile of crap.

[the_mad_laugher]

Your points are sound. That said, I didn't think it sucked quite as bad as you said. I understand your hatred of the Frankenstein scene. It was laughably done, Lucas really didn't have to have him yell like that. But, if you think about it, he just went through all this shit to save Padme, only to discover 1. He's in a fucking robotic suit for all time--I bet he didn't have much of a say in that, and 2. his wife is dead, so he couldn't actually control life and death as promised

Re: I still think George Lucas made Ep. 1-3 on a dare.

[the_mad_laugher]

My theory re: the actors is actually that, for most of them, just being a part of SOMETHING Star Wars outweighs the normal concerns about quality of directing/dialogue, and that, as you say, is definitely a strike against them. I was merely saying that I've seen other movies with most of the main actors, and they were far better actors in those movies than in the Star Wars films. This is both a fuction of their lowered standards and the fact that George Lucas can't direct people very well.

[blizack]

I was going to post a big reply, but suffice it to say that I agree with you on all points.

[the_mad_laugher]

Agree with my points (in my overlong post), with Ben's, or both?

[blizack]

Ben's. Though I also agree with some of yours.