Re: The Dark Knight (no spoilers, just opinions)
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Elucidate what you mean by the Joker's href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Prisoners_dilemma&redirect=no" title="Prisoners dilemma">Prisoners dilemma? I loved the dynamic Nolan set up for the Batman & Joker. It follows the true spirit of their relationship in the comics. "I could never kill you. You're too much fun!"
I liked how they didn't give the Joker a real origin either. If you want to buy a single, amazing graphic novel that gives Joker a possible origin story while paralleling one of his most devastating attacks on the Batman family that perfectly illustrates the relationship between Batman, Gordon and Joker, you must get Batman: The Killing Joke by Alan Moore & Brian Bolland.
I agree with you on Harvey. I agree with the decision however because it would be hard to justify his becoming truly evil after that three-way confrontation at the end.
The plot of this movie draws heavily on Batman: The Long Halloween by Jeph Loeb & Tim Sale.
The plot of Batman Begins drew mainly from Batman: Year One by Frank Miller & David Mazzucchelli.
Logically the next film would draw inspiration from Batman: Dark Victory by Jeph Loeb & Time Sale.
However, Bale has stated in interviews rather humorously that he won't do a film that features Robin. With Nolan's tone, I don't see his Bruce jumping on the child endangerment bandwagon too quickly. They may pine the depths of Long Halloween a bit more for the next film. There's plenty of rogues they left out.
Personally, I'd like to see Catwoman as the main villain. It would make sense with the romantic void left in Bruce's life after this film. She's a major figure in Batman lore, much like the Joker. It follows the theme of this film, a villain that challenges Batman. It's not as simple a dynamic as catch the crook, send them away. There's something about her that makes it difficult for him to see things clearly and act responsibly.
Tim Burton did a really great job of capturing that relationship in Batman Returns though. The romance between Selina Kyle and Bruce Wayne and the struggle with revealing dual-identities is true to the comics. Nolan might not want to keep redoing Burton's work. But who am I kidding? It's Hollywood! I'm sure all of the producers want him to repeat his remake success.
The Penguin, in his Underworld Crimeboss persona would be a good follow-up. In the comics, Oswald Cobblepot has been shown as a "legitimate businessman" while running the underworld financially. He could become the head of the crime syndicates after the destruction of the mafia, filling the void of leadership shown in The Dark Knight.
The Riddler could be cool done by Nolan and his writing partners. I can totally see him getting Robin Williams'
Insomnia character to play that role.
I would like the next film to be a mystery. They tried to show more of Bruce's detective skills in this film, but not nearly enough. Batman is The World's Greatest Detective. I think the next film should show that. Give Bruce something that he can throw himself headlong into for the entire movie without too many subplots. He certainly could use the distraction after the conclusion of Dark Knight. Plus, this would give him and Gordon something to work on together in secret while the rest of the force hunts him down whenever they catch a glimpse of him in Gotham City.
Chris "Gordon's closing speech is cinematic perfection" Bellis
Elucidate what you mean by the Joker's href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Prisoners_dilemma&redirect=no" title="Prisoners dilemma">Prisoners dilemma? I loved the dynamic Nolan set up for the Batman & Joker. It follows the true spirit of their relationship in the comics. "I could never kill you. You're too much fun!"
I liked how they didn't give the Joker a real origin either. If you want to buy a single, amazing graphic novel that gives Joker a possible origin story while paralleling one of his most devastating attacks on the Batman family that perfectly illustrates the relationship between Batman, Gordon and Joker, you must get Batman: The Killing Joke by Alan Moore & Brian Bolland.
I agree with you on Harvey. I agree with the decision however because it would be hard to justify his becoming truly evil after that three-way confrontation at the end.
The plot of this movie draws heavily on Batman: The Long Halloween by Jeph Loeb & Tim Sale.
The plot of Batman Begins drew mainly from Batman: Year One by Frank Miller & David Mazzucchelli.
Logically the next film would draw inspiration from Batman: Dark Victory by Jeph Loeb & Time Sale.
However, Bale has stated in interviews rather humorously that he won't do a film that features Robin. With Nolan's tone, I don't see his Bruce jumping on the child endangerment bandwagon too quickly. They may pine the depths of Long Halloween a bit more for the next film. There's plenty of rogues they left out.
Personally, I'd like to see Catwoman as the main villain. It would make sense with the romantic void left in Bruce's life after this film. She's a major figure in Batman lore, much like the Joker. It follows the theme of this film, a villain that challenges Batman. It's not as simple a dynamic as catch the crook, send them away. There's something about her that makes it difficult for him to see things clearly and act responsibly.
Tim Burton did a really great job of capturing that relationship in Batman Returns though. The romance between Selina Kyle and Bruce Wayne and the struggle with revealing dual-identities is true to the comics. Nolan might not want to keep redoing Burton's work. But who am I kidding? It's Hollywood! I'm sure all of the producers want him to repeat his remake success.
The Penguin, in his Underworld Crimeboss persona would be a good follow-up. In the comics, Oswald Cobblepot has been shown as a "legitimate businessman" while running the underworld financially. He could become the head of the crime syndicates after the destruction of the mafia, filling the void of leadership shown in The Dark Knight.
The Riddler could be cool done by Nolan and his writing partners. I can totally see him getting Robin Williams'
Insomnia character to play that role.
I would like the next film to be a mystery. They tried to show more of Bruce's detective skills in this film, but not nearly enough. Batman is The World's Greatest Detective. I think the next film should show that. Give Bruce something that he can throw himself headlong into for the entire movie without too many subplots. He certainly could use the distraction after the conclusion of Dark Knight. Plus, this would give him and Gordon something to work on together in secret while the rest of the force hunts him down whenever they catch a glimpse of him in Gotham City.
Chris "Gordon's closing speech is cinematic perfection" Bellis