That's horrible! >:o That girl sounds phenominally stupid. There are actually programs for teen mothers who don't want anyone to know about their babies. I read about it while I was waiting in some clinic one time (I think). They can give their baby up at any emergency room (in the US? I don't know about Canada) within 3 days of birth and they don't ask any names, but they give the mother an identifying bracelet in case she wants the baby back within a certain period, but to actually leave your baby outside just hoping that some kind person will take him in is so dangerously irresponsible I can't believe it. I've heard horror stories about drunk girls giving birth at parties and ...uhg, I don't even want to say how that turned out.
I wouldn't have minded so much if she had picked a better place to leave the baby. A trash bag? Really. Though I guess she couldn't "help it", seeing how her mother was about to come home.
I'm not sure if there are those kinds of programs here (I've never really given it much thought), but I would think there is. If not, it's something the city really has to change. Actually, I think I'll look into that, thanks for bringing it up.
Both mother and grandmother sound like total quacks. I really hope they don't gain custody of the child.
What's the deal with a trash bag? If you're looking to give away your child to some kind, sweet kidnapper on the street (which is what anyone would legally be if they just picked up the kid and took him home - HELLO?) at least try to do it without suffocating him first.
That girl's mother should have left her on the curb fifteen years ago.
God, *I'M* fifteen. I live in a small town without a lot of resources. I think--know--I could have handled this better than she did. She should have just told her mother from the get-go. She can't have thought that this would cause her less stress. Oi.
I wonder how much of the grandmother and mother's statements are heartfelt. They could be really, really pissed. Actually, they probably have mixed emotions. I could feel bad for someone and be really angry with them as well. They might not be as weird as they seem. Or maybe they are, whatever.
I don't think the girl should have custody, but I do think she should get to visit if she wishes. Maybe not alone.
I would have been really mad, myself. It is his child too. I mean, it's doubtful a 14-year-old boy has any gushy feelings about the kid, but he should have known.
I can't help but wonder if that wished he had never found out (and certainly not in such a public manner). X3 That maybe this really would've blown over quietly.
everyone makes their mistakes, and I'm not saying the girl should have to go to prison or anything...but that second story makes her sound damn near heroic. Are we really to the point where society condones the throwing of babies into trash cans? you know, just so long as someone finds them.
everyone makes their mistakes, and I'm not saying the girl should have to go to prison or anything...but that second story makes her sound damn near heroic.
That boggles my mind possibly more than anything else about the case. The article is obviously written with a slant to make the girl look all noble and self-sacrificing. It just doesn't square.
How can a person be so selflessly devoted to her mother and at the same time so completely unfeeling toward her child? If she really loved her mother that much, would she have deceived her for nine months about such an important thing? If she really was so heartbroken about abandoning her baby, as she claims in her poem, why did she do it in the first place? Why didn't she go back and get him?
The girl is either totally insane, or some crucial facts are missing.
I don't think jail time would do much, so I'm not really in support of that either. I know quite a number of people wouldn't mind seeing her serve time, though.
Are we really to the point where society condones the throwing of babies into trash cans? you know, just so long as someone finds them.
People are getting too used to these things happening. Several years ago here, there was a young woman who left her two children (a fifteen-month-old boy and a four-month-old girl) in her apartment for ten days while she went out of town with her boyfriend (who wasn't even the father, btw).
I guess compared to that, what this girl did doesn't seem as bad. But it still doesn't justify anything.
God, that story was sad. I might possibly even KNOW that girl - she's the same age as me and she goes to the school I would go to if I wasn't in French Immersion. She also lives near me, which means we probably went to the same elementary school, in the same grade. If I knew her name, I could find out for sure.
I'm so glad the baby was all right though. Seriously, that's just stupid. Underage sex...no. Just no. And she managed to hide her pregnancy for nine months and then had a simple 30-minute labour! Plus, the woman who found the baby wasn't even on her regular dog-walking route. It's pretty amazing that it all worked out okay. But I don't think she deserves custody. Not yet, anyway.
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Though I guess she couldn't "help it", seeing how her mother was about to come home.
I'm not sure if there are those kinds of programs here (I've never really given it much thought), but I would think there is. If not, it's something the city really has to change.
Actually, I think I'll look into that, thanks for bringing it up.
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What's the deal with a trash bag? If you're looking to give away your child to some kind, sweet kidnapper on the street (which is what anyone would legally be if they just picked up the kid and took him home - HELLO?) at least try to do it without suffocating him first.
That girl's mother should have left her on the curb fifteen years ago.
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I wonder how much of the grandmother and mother's statements are heartfelt. They could be really, really pissed. Actually, they probably have mixed emotions. I could feel bad for someone and be really angry with them as well. They might not be as weird as they seem. Or maybe they are, whatever.
I don't think the girl should have custody, but I do think she should get to visit if she wishes. Maybe not alone.
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Wouldn't the mother be more stressed out finding out *after* the birth...
I think right now, everyone's just kinda out of it. :|
I don't think the girl should have custody, but I do think she should get to visit if she wishes. Maybe not alone.
Yeah, I agree. But only if she's not alone (until she's an adult, I guess), and only if the caregiver of the child agrees to it.
I wonder how the 14-year-old father reacted when he found out?
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Ahhh! XD Anyway, yeah.
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That boggles my mind possibly more than anything else about the case. The article is obviously written with a slant to make the girl look all noble and self-sacrificing. It just doesn't square.
How can a person be so selflessly devoted to her mother and at the same time so completely unfeeling toward her child? If she really loved her mother that much, would she have deceived her for nine months about such an important thing? If she really was so heartbroken about abandoning her baby, as she claims in her poem, why did she do it in the first place? Why didn't she go back and get him?
The girl is either totally insane, or some crucial facts are missing.
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Then maybe, maybe, this will all make more sense. :|
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Are we really to the point where society condones the throwing of babies into trash cans? you know, just so long as someone finds them.
People are getting too used to these things happening.
Several years ago here, there was a young woman who left her two children (a fifteen-month-old boy and a four-month-old girl) in her apartment for ten days while she went out of town with her boyfriend (who wasn't even the father, btw).
I guess compared to that, what this girl did doesn't seem as bad.
But it still doesn't justify anything.
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I'm so glad the baby was all right though. Seriously, that's just stupid. Underage sex...no. Just no. And she managed to hide her pregnancy for nine months and then had a simple 30-minute labour! Plus, the woman who found the baby wasn't even on her regular dog-walking route. It's pretty amazing that it all worked out okay. But I don't think she deserves custody. Not yet, anyway.
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And she managed to hide her pregnancy for nine months and then had a simple 30-minute labour!
Yeah, that just boggles me.
And then there are those women who are desperate for a child and end up having a ton of labour troubles...:/
It's pretty amazing that it all worked out okay.
This is exactly why I'm angry. What were the chances that things would go so perfectly? Pretty low, I'm sure.
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