Afterword Two
Hello again. I'm sorry to return like a... well, like a bad penny, but I have some information I must share with you. People have been wonderfully generous about sending things in, and I have two that I feel I ought to share with you now.
First, Cassandra Claire/epicyclical has emailed angua9 a screencap of Fermatojam's comment on her livejournal on March 26, 2003, showing the IP. It is 68.82.67.208. Combined with the information from Chapter Four, Chapter Five, this and this comment (and this screen cap) from flyingphoenix and this comment from Eljuno in the Bad_Penny community, that Delaware Comcast Cable IP has now been captured for the following dates, posters, and places:
December 23, 2002 - Msscribe - Portkey registration - contributed by Flyingphoenix, former PK mod
December 31, 2002 - Clarabella - Portkey registration - contributed by Flyingphoenix, former PK mod
January 18, 2003 - Clarabella - Sugar Quill post - contributed by Angua and Dianora, SQ mods
March 23, 2003 - Clarabella - Portkey post about Msscribe in hospital - contributed by Flyingphoenix, former PK mod
March 26, 2003 - Fermatojam - Cassandra Claire's LJ - contributed by Cassandra Claire
April? 2003 - Fermatojam - Gryffindor Tower registration - contributed by Carissa_lynn, GT admin
May 7, 2003 - Pottersginny - Harry_and_Ginny LJ community - contributed by Bohemianvixen, community maintainer
May 31, 2003 - Msscribe - 3 emails to Carissa_lynn with copies to Praetorianguard - contributed by Carissa_lynn, GT admin
September 2003(?) - Karma_bitch - Fandom_wank - contributed by Oulangi from Eljuno, F_W mod
I'd say that all holds together nicely.
And I would like to thank Cassandra Claire very much for offering this additional evidence.
In a comment to my Journalfen journal here, a poster who later identified himself or herself as Ishie on Livejournal said that he or she lived near the University of Dayton and had additional information to offer:
I'm not involved in any of these matters except as a curious (and somewhat obsessed now, admittedly) bystander. However, in the interest of making this as complete a record as it can possibly be*, I have some more information for you regarding the University of Dayton and its alleged connection to this. If you would care to receive it, of course.
I have no interest in making a name for myself in any way connected to this entire debacle and would prefer to send it to you via email. Whether you use my name is entirely up to you, I only ask for the chance to share it with you. Whether it is used in your telling of the tale is entirely up to you and I will not quibble with whatever decision you make. Is there an address to which I can send it?
Yours,
A Hometown Nosy Parker
* I will admit a prejudice here -- UD is my local university and I did some digging to see if anything MsScribe alleged could be substantiated. No one besmirches the Flyers unless they live here!
These are the emails Ishie then sent me:
It's really kind of overkill at this point, but I did it anyway:
I spoke to L____ in the Media Relations department at the university twice over the last few days. She confirmed that in her research she found that no student named Louis Movello was ever registered at the university.
(Note: the university's most recent rules for student behavior has a passage regarding disciplinary hearings, expulsions and the maintenance of records.
Records of serious disciplinary actions resulting in probation, suspension or dismissal are
maintained for a period of seven years from the date of a student's graduation or permanent separation from the University unless, pursuant to a written request, an official order to expunge a specific record is issued by the University Hearing Board.
[http://www.udayton.edu/~studev/UniversityofDaytonAug2005.pdf, page 29] )
I spoke to someone in the IT department, who requested anonymity. Accordingly, I can only report that to the best of this person's knowledge, the IT department would be notified in such a case [as Movello's] once it had been brought to the school's attention. It is also his opinion that in a similar hypothetical situation, it could be investigated by either UD's Public Safety department or the City of ____ police department -- the two bodies share a good working relationship and often consult or work jointly. He also said that he can not remember a student of the university being accused of internet stalking, nor has he any knowledge of an investigation into the use of campus resources for such purposes during the timeframe given.
(Of interest to very few: one of UD's most famous sons is Don Novello, aka Father Guido Sarducci. Early in his career, he pretended to be a man named Lazlo Toth in correspondence with celebrities. Many of these letters and the responses he received can be found in compilation books by Novello. [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Novello ])
I am awaiting callbacks from three additional contacts, though the first response was enough to convince me, after angua_9's findings. However, I wouldn't feel right about leaving it at that. MsScribe made some very serious charges against this alleged student; I want to be certain that she hasn't libeled an innocent person. I will update you when I hear back from these contacts.
I am keeping a full transcript of all calls/times/dates and names/numbers of contacts. If you need more detail in order to substantiate any of this information or to establish credibility should you use any of it, I am more than happy to oblige. I have only suppressed the names and contact information in this account in order to protect the identities of the people to whom I spoke.
One further note: I would not object to having my LJ name attached to this report if it would help to establish credibility. However, I don't want to give the impression that I am trying to gain a greater visibility in any fandom by contributing to your account. My only motivation in doing this is to clear up any of the loose threads in the investigation so far.
That, and once an intrepid high-school reporter, always an intrepid high-school reporter!
and
I've heard back from two of my additional contacts and can say with certainty that there was no Louis Movello (or Lewis Movello, L. Mevello/Mavello, or any other spelling) at the University of Dayton as a student in the past five years, nor was any complaint filed with the university regarding an allegation of internet stalking by Dionne [last name] or any other person during the spring of 2003. I also verified angua9's information with the City of Dayton Police records department -- they have no record of a Louis Movello or a complaint filed by Dionne [last name].
I have a call in to the HR department at the university on the off-chance that there was an L. Movello employed by the university during that time frame. However, I think it highly unlikely as I can find no records of a Movello living in the Dayton area within the past five years.
So. There you have it. A straw man, and not even a well-constructed one.
(Again, I do have a transcript of all calls and contact names/phone numbers should you need them for verification purposes.)
I should also mention that I received another unsolicited email forwarding an email from a friend who had called the University of Dayton requesting information about a former student named Louis Movello and was told:
"I have no one on file by than name, nor anyone with that last name, nor any close spellings."
I think we should now count the University of Dayton as completely cleared from the suspicion of having had a computer-hacking student named Louis Movello in attendance, and cease questioning the school before we begin to cause alarm and comment -- though I expect the university will not be displeased to have had that part of the story disproven.
Again, I am very grateful to both my helpful informants.
There is another thing I ought to tell you. I said in the previous Afterword -- now known as Afterword One -- that I intended to leave the copy of this story at the Bad_Penny community unrevised from that point forward to preserve it for history. Unfortunately, I have had to adjust that plan slightly. Journalfen has received a complaint from someone representing himself as Msscribe's husband, charging that some of my quoting and the use of a icon photo of Msscribe from Msscribe's livejournal constitutes an infringement of copyright. At Journalfen's request, I have edited my story -- and will edit it further as seems advisable -- to remove any items that seem likely to elicit such complaints.
One final item: I regret to say that the publication of this story has led to the trolling of some participants' journals with unpleasant anonymous and signed comments. Please don't do that! And if some of these unpleasant comments are coming from Msscribe herself, I hope we will collectively be able to bring that to light. I myself have harvested two or three IPs that I believe merit further examination.
Thank all of you so much for the helpful comments and emails. Right now, the volume is overwhelming, but I will try to process it all.
Afterword Three
First, Cassandra Claire/epicyclical has emailed angua9 a screencap of Fermatojam's comment on her livejournal on March 26, 2003, showing the IP. It is 68.82.67.208. Combined with the information from Chapter Four, Chapter Five, this and this comment (and this screen cap) from flyingphoenix and this comment from Eljuno in the Bad_Penny community, that Delaware Comcast Cable IP has now been captured for the following dates, posters, and places:
December 23, 2002 - Msscribe - Portkey registration - contributed by Flyingphoenix, former PK mod
December 31, 2002 - Clarabella - Portkey registration - contributed by Flyingphoenix, former PK mod
January 18, 2003 - Clarabella - Sugar Quill post - contributed by Angua and Dianora, SQ mods
March 23, 2003 - Clarabella - Portkey post about Msscribe in hospital - contributed by Flyingphoenix, former PK mod
March 26, 2003 - Fermatojam - Cassandra Claire's LJ - contributed by Cassandra Claire
April? 2003 - Fermatojam - Gryffindor Tower registration - contributed by Carissa_lynn, GT admin
May 7, 2003 - Pottersginny - Harry_and_Ginny LJ community - contributed by Bohemianvixen, community maintainer
May 31, 2003 - Msscribe - 3 emails to Carissa_lynn with copies to Praetorianguard - contributed by Carissa_lynn, GT admin
September 2003(?) - Karma_bitch - Fandom_wank - contributed by Oulangi from Eljuno, F_W mod
I'd say that all holds together nicely.
And I would like to thank Cassandra Claire very much for offering this additional evidence.
In a comment to my Journalfen journal here, a poster who later identified himself or herself as Ishie on Livejournal said that he or she lived near the University of Dayton and had additional information to offer:
I'm not involved in any of these matters except as a curious (and somewhat obsessed now, admittedly) bystander. However, in the interest of making this as complete a record as it can possibly be*, I have some more information for you regarding the University of Dayton and its alleged connection to this. If you would care to receive it, of course.
I have no interest in making a name for myself in any way connected to this entire debacle and would prefer to send it to you via email. Whether you use my name is entirely up to you, I only ask for the chance to share it with you. Whether it is used in your telling of the tale is entirely up to you and I will not quibble with whatever decision you make. Is there an address to which I can send it?
Yours,
A Hometown Nosy Parker
* I will admit a prejudice here -- UD is my local university and I did some digging to see if anything MsScribe alleged could be substantiated. No one besmirches the Flyers unless they live here!
These are the emails Ishie then sent me:
It's really kind of overkill at this point, but I did it anyway:
I spoke to L____ in the Media Relations department at the university twice over the last few days. She confirmed that in her research she found that no student named Louis Movello was ever registered at the university.
(Note: the university's most recent rules for student behavior has a passage regarding disciplinary hearings, expulsions and the maintenance of records.
Records of serious disciplinary actions resulting in probation, suspension or dismissal are
maintained for a period of seven years from the date of a student's graduation or permanent separation from the University unless, pursuant to a written request, an official order to expunge a specific record is issued by the University Hearing Board.
[http://www.udayton.edu/~studev/UniversityofDaytonAug2005.pdf, page 29] )
I spoke to someone in the IT department, who requested anonymity. Accordingly, I can only report that to the best of this person's knowledge, the IT department would be notified in such a case [as Movello's] once it had been brought to the school's attention. It is also his opinion that in a similar hypothetical situation, it could be investigated by either UD's Public Safety department or the City of ____ police department -- the two bodies share a good working relationship and often consult or work jointly. He also said that he can not remember a student of the university being accused of internet stalking, nor has he any knowledge of an investigation into the use of campus resources for such purposes during the timeframe given.
(Of interest to very few: one of UD's most famous sons is Don Novello, aka Father Guido Sarducci. Early in his career, he pretended to be a man named Lazlo Toth in correspondence with celebrities. Many of these letters and the responses he received can be found in compilation books by Novello. [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Novello ])
I am awaiting callbacks from three additional contacts, though the first response was enough to convince me, after angua_9's findings. However, I wouldn't feel right about leaving it at that. MsScribe made some very serious charges against this alleged student; I want to be certain that she hasn't libeled an innocent person. I will update you when I hear back from these contacts.
I am keeping a full transcript of all calls/times/dates and names/numbers of contacts. If you need more detail in order to substantiate any of this information or to establish credibility should you use any of it, I am more than happy to oblige. I have only suppressed the names and contact information in this account in order to protect the identities of the people to whom I spoke.
One further note: I would not object to having my LJ name attached to this report if it would help to establish credibility. However, I don't want to give the impression that I am trying to gain a greater visibility in any fandom by contributing to your account. My only motivation in doing this is to clear up any of the loose threads in the investigation so far.
That, and once an intrepid high-school reporter, always an intrepid high-school reporter!
and
I've heard back from two of my additional contacts and can say with certainty that there was no Louis Movello (or Lewis Movello, L. Mevello/Mavello, or any other spelling) at the University of Dayton as a student in the past five years, nor was any complaint filed with the university regarding an allegation of internet stalking by Dionne [last name] or any other person during the spring of 2003. I also verified angua9's information with the City of Dayton Police records department -- they have no record of a Louis Movello or a complaint filed by Dionne [last name].
I have a call in to the HR department at the university on the off-chance that there was an L. Movello employed by the university during that time frame. However, I think it highly unlikely as I can find no records of a Movello living in the Dayton area within the past five years.
So. There you have it. A straw man, and not even a well-constructed one.
(Again, I do have a transcript of all calls and contact names/phone numbers should you need them for verification purposes.)
I should also mention that I received another unsolicited email forwarding an email from a friend who had called the University of Dayton requesting information about a former student named Louis Movello and was told:
"I have no one on file by than name, nor anyone with that last name, nor any close spellings."
I think we should now count the University of Dayton as completely cleared from the suspicion of having had a computer-hacking student named Louis Movello in attendance, and cease questioning the school before we begin to cause alarm and comment -- though I expect the university will not be displeased to have had that part of the story disproven.
Again, I am very grateful to both my helpful informants.
There is another thing I ought to tell you. I said in the previous Afterword -- now known as Afterword One -- that I intended to leave the copy of this story at the Bad_Penny community unrevised from that point forward to preserve it for history. Unfortunately, I have had to adjust that plan slightly. Journalfen has received a complaint from someone representing himself as Msscribe's husband, charging that some of my quoting and the use of a icon photo of Msscribe from Msscribe's livejournal constitutes an infringement of copyright. At Journalfen's request, I have edited my story -- and will edit it further as seems advisable -- to remove any items that seem likely to elicit such complaints.
One final item: I regret to say that the publication of this story has led to the trolling of some participants' journals with unpleasant anonymous and signed comments. Please don't do that! And if some of these unpleasant comments are coming from Msscribe herself, I hope we will collectively be able to bring that to light. I myself have harvested two or three IPs that I believe merit further examination.
Thank all of you so much for the helpful comments and emails. Right now, the volume is overwhelming, but I will try to process it all.
Afterword Three