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Sep 20, 2006 11:48

alright, i don't know where to begin. i had another night where a friend and i talked and cried for hours...in the car, in the street in the house. i mean sobbed when i say cried. if someone where reaching out for help and you felt that you did everything for them...what else is there to do but hope you said the right thing. that's where i am at. ( Read more... )

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bluebeard77 September 20 2006, 18:41:58 UTC
Your friend(s) need professional help. Let a family member know and get them the help they need.

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travis1975 September 20 2006, 20:22:45 UTC
I agree 100%. It's admirable that you want to help but you can't do it by yourself.

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agnostoman September 20 2006, 21:51:48 UTC
I disagree. I feel she's a lot more qualified to help. She is probably much more familiar with this person's issues in a genuine informed way. How is a shrink going to talk someone into thinking their life is worth living? What if it really isn't?

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travis1975 September 20 2006, 22:37:18 UTC
These people train for years to help people like this. A lot of times it is better to have someone from the "outside" who can look at things in an objective manner to try and help you. Amy is too emotionally involved. To refuse to get professional help for this girl based on what you say would be a complete and potentially tragic disservice to this girl in my opinion.

I guarantee you this girl's life is worth living. I am assuming she is around Amy's age. She can still do so much with her life that to throw it away would be a complete waste.

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agnostoman September 20 2006, 21:50:37 UTC
The first mistake is that is sounds like you are blaming yourself somewhat for these past suicides. It's never your fault. Even if you told them to do it, the buck stops with them. They are personally responsible. I can understand the guilt you feel, but it's misplaced. It's like when someone breaks up, and they say "If only XXXX was honest, then it would have been fine." They weren't honest, that's not who they are. If the earth were made of chocolate nobody would starve. If you could have saved someone's life by being with them 24x7 when that wasn't being true to yourself, and that's just not the way things were meant to be ( ... )

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travis1975 September 20 2006, 22:31:58 UTC
I totally disagree. I think it takes a lot more courage to fight through your problems and make your life better. It is a lot easier to quit than it is to try.

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agnostoman September 20 2006, 22:52:10 UTC
There's a difference between fighting through you problems, and medicating yourself to "deal" with them. People medicate all the time. Self medication through drugs, alchohol, even sex. Heck, just about any addiction can be an attempt to "lose yourself."

I don't think relying on Pills is really that much better than being an alchoholic. It's trying to numb the pain, instead of learning to channel it, and grow from it.Someday, those issues are going to come to the surface. I have seen it in many, many of my friends.

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chickengirl88 September 21 2006, 03:26:47 UTC
the person called today and has decided to seek help. and thanked me for being there for them. for being a true friend. i told them i will not hang out with them if they are drinking because they need to quit. they said they would try...so we shall see. i am glad they are recognizing the problems and seeking help. i am glad that something i said helped.

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agnostoman September 21 2006, 03:54:00 UTC
Thats awesome news! Glad to hear everything is working out well! I have to give you a lot of credit. The gun thing! Wow!!!

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