feminism and shit

[cinnamon_kisses]

Let's have a talk about double-standards.

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[caittails]

The only argument I would have here is for Ginny being a stronger female character than Bella, and you've probably seen the gif or photo or whatever that I'm (slightly because it's a bit inaccurate) referencing. In the beginning, when Ginny couldn't be with Harry, yeah she was annoying and ridiculous, but when Harry left her so that she would be safe, that girl kicked ass. Even though Hogwarts was being run by Death Eaters, she still re-started Dumbledore's Army and she played a major role in the final battle, whereas when Edward left her for her own safety (although I guess she didn't know that at the time, but still) Bella threw herself into ridiculously dangerous positions that could have gotten both her and Edward killed, because she's such a teenager that she can't move on and realize that there are other fish in the sea

[cinnamon_kisses]

Hmm. I guess I can't comment as well as I'd like because I never finished the last book. It was too awful.

I have a very different view on love than you do, so my view on Bella is much different. But I would also say that Bella knew all along what she wanted - to become a vampire - and everyone took the choice out of her hands, so she did the best she could.

[kudosirony]

Hermione was one of the biggest let downs for me as a literary character. She had every bit of being the modern day girl's role model up until HP5 and being one of the best/strongest female characters ever (IMO). Then she had to turn idiot for Ron Weasley. Yes, I'm HP/HG but if Ron wasn't so immature, I wouldn't care. But everything she stood for, he bitched about - her penitent for rules, studying, reading, freeing elves, etc. I can't think of one thing she enjoyed that he didn't bitch about. But she never said one thing about Quidditch except how dangerous she thought it was but she was at every freakn' game (minus when she had the basilisk run in). It's been what, 4 years since the last book? And I still can't get over my disappointment in Hermione's fate

[kudosirony]

Um..this was supposed to be a new comment?

[mlynn1985]

This is completely OT, but icon love!

[cinnamon_kisses]

Thanks :P

[flossiepots]

Hermione choosing to make babies with Ron rather than have a career

Aren't you assuming she has chose between them? I would imagine Hermione would have a career and be a parent, as most women do. We only saw her in the epilogue for one instance of her life, in which she was a mother. But I'd imagine she also has a thriving career too.

[cinnamon_kisses]

You can imagine all you want, but we only have what JK Rowling chose to show us - and all she chose to show us was Hermione as a wife and mother. That says a lot to me.

[kudosirony]

I agree with this statement - Rowling valued Hermione's position as wife/mother more than her career because of what she chose to tell us in the epilogue of evil. It always bugged me to not know what the characters did for a living post-Voldemort.

[returnofthegaze]

I would argue that Hermione did not give up her ambitions to be with Ron. Yes, she is only shown in the epilogue as a mother, but that is the same way that all of the characters--including the men--are portrayed in the epilogue. The end of the seventh book is about the change of generations, and it is only natural that Harry, Ron, and Hermione should be shown as parents. There is no reason to think that Hermione does not also have a career; indeed, considering her character through the rest of the series, I think it is fair to assume that she does.

[cinnamon_kisses]

I suppose that's another way to look at it. I still feel, though, given Rowling's treatment of female characters throughout the series, that she couldn't afford to be silent on that count at the end.

[bandaidedbullet]

Firstly, I find this entry so, so thought-provoking!! I've been debating this on my own for the past couple years considering the twists and turns my life has taken since moving back to Kansas. Maybe I take this whole thing too personally considering my life experience, but I've been fighting the urge to say something since I first saw this pop up in my inbox

[cinnamon_kisses]

Firstly, I want to say how glad I am that you found this entry thought-provoking rather than offensive. =/ I tend to offend when I get opinionated. And secondly, I want to say I'm sorry you were forced into that choice - whatever the result, it must have been a very stressful time for you

[bandaidedbullet]

Definitely not offended. =] I think it's great that you took such a deep look in comparing so many characters to show the difference between both books!

I agree about the unbalanced portrayal of women; I really wish there was more about single mothers or even just single women in general. I find all these romantic movies a little bit nauseating with these cookie-cutter romances.

So far I do agree that the female life is shown much more in-depth in the Twilight series than in HP. I loved hearing Rosalie's history - it explained so, so much about her character. And I love the actress who played Renee in the movies - originally saw her in Grey's Anatomy, but I think she did a great job with Renee's character.

And it's that bad, eh? I never got into the Concert Choir. I was just one of the University Singers. =[

[cinnamon_kisses]

Well, you know, lit major. They trained me well. :P

I love that actress, too. She really did a great job of highlighting the best of Renee, which I think gets twisted in a lot of interpretations of the books.

I haven't been in choir since they left, but it just seems like a less vibrant program now. You don't hear as much out of the music department as you used to. That could also be the economy...Baker went through a pretty tough patch.