December days: Filioque

Dec 16, 2014 14:45

ghoti prompted me with "Filioque. Go!", because clearly my darling wife wants to give me nice easy prompts that don't require much research or thought, or for that matter that don't cause me to play the priest-on-Trinity-Sunday game of "let's see how long I can talk for before accidentally committing heresy".

so, there was this Cerularius, right, and he spilled our Humbert's pint )

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ghoti December 16 2014, 19:56:12 UTC
Thank you! Despite listening to you a lot, I didn't know most of that.

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cjwatson December 17 2014, 17:02:14 UTC
This is mostly from the Roman POV as well, to be fair, although you can probably get the idea that I'm not very impressed with the conduct of the Western side in general. I'd love to be able to explain the Orthodox theological perspective in more detail, but unfortunately it starts from such a radically different standpoint that I find it difficult to understand well enough. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theoria might be a starting point for this but I really have no ability to fact-check it ...

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badriya December 16 2014, 22:55:06 UTC
Can you write about how it feels to be an incoming parent? I am interested as #1 daughter got married in February(in the US) and again in September(in the UK) to a man who is not the father of my 8 yr old grandson.

She had been seeing her husband for a year I think before they married and they'd had holidays together. Grandson spends half the time with his father and half with mother. They split when grandson was 2. They do have meals etc together and spend times with her partner and his new partner too.

Grandson seems to like new husband, and I encouraged the latter to go to a couple of events at school that mum, dad and neither grandparent could go to; the school picnic last summer was one. But grandpa and I do after school collecting and mum and dad do all the deciding and upbringing. Mum is now expecting a new baby, which might change the way things work. She works full-time at present and new husband is away a lot as his job is being a professor in Wales, the US and Australia.

So how was it foryou?

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cjwatson December 17 2014, 14:09:47 UTC
OK, I've slotted that into my list. I'll see if I can write it in a way that's suitable for a public post.

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cartesiandaemon December 17 2014, 17:05:21 UTC
Thank you, this was fascinating. I had NO idea when or how the schism first happened, I'd not even really thought about it.

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gerald_duck December 18 2014, 15:50:19 UTC
My first thought is that "Just a Heresy" should totally be a panel show along the lines of "Just a Minute", only a variety of clergy have to talk for a minute on a chosen topic without hesitation, deviation, repetition or heresy.

My second is that it's a real shame Livejournal wasn't invented centuries ago. A protracted flamewar can be quite damaging, but not nearly as damaging as crusades, excommunications, burning of papal bulls, schisms, etc.

Given my own view is that even Sabellianism is just another way of looking at an ineffable reality, it's hard to envisage choosing a church on the basis of filoque!

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