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[claripossum]

Ok so... I haven't looked, in detail, at why this dude person thinks the rapture is happening tomorrow. I skimmed... and I basically gathered that he's using the "thousand year day" thing and added up the timeline and came up with this date. Ok, that makes sense, but is still incorrect.

I'm in facebook, reading over some discussion boards on a Bible

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[sturgeonslawyer]

Camping's response to the "no one knows the day or the hour" verse is unassailable in its simplicity (a double-edged word). He points out that the verse is in the present tense -- "no one knows," not no one WILL know.

He also claims that we are in a new dispensation, now, and the age of churches is over.

Weird dude. He lives here in Alameda.

[claripossum]

Alameda, you say? LoL.

My pastor has mentioned the "88 reasons" thing several times, and when I skimmed this guy's info it mentioned something about 1988. And in some of the discussion boards, that year has come up again. It seems they believe the "church age" ended in that year, and that churches are now worshiping satan and are unaware of it... it's wacky stuff. I asked what was up with the year 1988 but no one answered yet, LoL.

I almost forgot... the reason I brought up that 88 Reasons thing is that teaches that we can't know the day because there are technically always two different days existing on the planet. And we can't know the hour because of all the different time zones. I was like... Really? LoL. Now, I can see how this makes sense... I just don't agree with it. XD

[legacy]

Methinks people would do well to read their Bibles like you. "No man knows" is pretty straightforward and clear. And I was a New Testament nut; aside from a few "signs of the last days" mentioned in Matthew and Mark and sporadically in some of Paul's writings, there is no indication of the "when". People playing with numbers always results in a "haha, you were wrong again", so I just wish they'd give it a break.

Christians are supposed to live in grace, not fear of impending doom. The more grace, the more the when of judgment ceases to matter at all.

[kellsta]

Their defense for the "no man knows" argument is that, as believers, we CAN know (their motto) if we read and study the Bible. They quote 1 Thessalonians 5:4-5 for this. People of the world are "in the dark" as far as when the coming of the Lord will be, but because we are "children of the light" we will not be surprised by the Lord's coming.

Apparently that equates to us being able to know EXACTLY WHEN he will come.

[claripossum]

It's hard to be surprised by something you're always expecting... which is what the verse means, LoL. But you know that already.

Did you see my above comment about the "88 reasons" thing? I seriously LoL'd at that.

[kellsta]

Heh. Yea, I was wondering how they determined the end of the church age. They never said much about that, yet there was all this supposed PROOF...

[claripossum]

I have one idea...

I remember listening to Jack Van Impe talking about the fig tree prophecy... something about the generation which sees Israel becoming a nation again wouldn't pass before the end came... I haven't done any personal research into that one, but that's what he said. Anyway, I believe the 6-day war was in 1948, and I remember him saying that a generation is 40 years. Now JVI actually went by the 1967 date when it all became official, and predicted 2007 (at least he didn't put a specific date on it, thereby not technically going against scripture) but my husband and I were just talking about it, and seconds before I got your comment in my e-mail, we figured maybe 1948+40=1988?