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Oct 23, 2008 13:56

Just incase there is anyone on my flist who hasn't see this yet: the Atheist Bus Campaign.

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absinthecity October 23 2008, 13:33:06 UTC
Can't make up my mind about this one. On the one hand it's good to have balance, as there are plenty of posters about the place promoting various religions. But I can't help thinking it does nothing to further the cause, will give those who dislike the whole atheism 'movement' more amunition, and sort of brings it all down to the level of those bumper stickers made by religious crazies in America.

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clarisinda October 23 2008, 14:11:11 UTC
Thing is, I've really no idea what the "cause" is, and neither it seems does anyone else. But I guess that's why this has taken off as it has - a lot of people have broadly similar views on the subject, but thus far there hasn't really been a "cause" to get behind.

All I can see is that getting people talking about it is no bad thing, and if it makes certain people feel uncomfortable, then so do the adverts I see round London telling me I'm going to burn in hell eternally...

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ickabod_green October 23 2008, 14:05:21 UTC
At least it's got people talking about Atheism.

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clarisinda October 23 2008, 14:07:41 UTC
Yeah, I think that's basically the point of it, and that's got to be a good thing.

(p.s. Do I know you? Your username is not familiar...)

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ickabod_green October 23 2008, 14:09:52 UTC
No you probably don't know me; I'm a new kid on the block.

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spliceruk October 23 2008, 21:42:16 UTC
I donted this morning as I think it is a great idea!

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clarisinda October 24 2008, 11:27:42 UTC
So did I. It's fab, isn't it?

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scaryjim October 24 2008, 10:47:29 UTC
What a bloody awful waste of money. Quite apart from the fact that a large number of people will find it offensive to one degree or another, the poster isn't even Atheist - it's Agnostic. So it's shooting itself in the foot to start with. Generating debate is all well and good, but there are better ways to generate debate than put posters on buses, and better things to do with £11k. How about an atheist relief agency? An atheist bookstore? No - let's just get up religious people's noses for no reason other than we don't agree with them. It's not like it's even offering a better model of life - it's just "It doesn't matter, so do what you want".

Don't get me wrong, I have problems with most of the religious posters, and particularly the more extreme fundamentalist Christian ones. But I understand where those are coming from, even if I don't agree with them. This one, I really don't get. it honestly looks like collecting money just to wind people up, and I don't see what kind of society that would be a good thing in.

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clarisinda October 24 2008, 12:00:04 UTC
I'm sorry, but if someone finds a public assertion that god probably doesn't exist offensive, then I'm very happy to offend them! Why on earth shouldn't I be able to state my beliefs in a non confrontational manner like this, when religious people have the right to ( ... )

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scaryjim October 24 2008, 14:11:25 UTC
I'm not saying that the posters shouldn't be allowed: I'm very much a free speechist and would fight to the death yada yada. In the same way that the Christians have the right to say that you're going to burn in hell, you have the right to tell them that they're stupid and gullible (and I have the right to think you're both wrong, but generally keep quiet about it ( ... )

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clarisinda October 24 2008, 14:32:01 UTC
Whilst anyone can believe whatever they like, I'd rather more people in the world had a logical, rational world view, than one led by "faith". If there were no religion would we have this so called "war on terror"? While I appreciate that for millions of people it's a personal thing, and it does little harm, religion is also the cause of wars etc. Sure war would happen anyway due to greed etc, but religion justifies people's belief that they are intrinsically right and have the right to kill to prove it. Religious people also have a tendancy to try to apply their absolute morals to others, eg abortion, euthenasia. I don't consider it my right to make choices for them, but somehow they do for me? Obviously this causes all sorts of conflicts ( ... )

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