The post was mostly for Fallorn...as I borrowed the book from him. The scene happened as above, and I am curious (other than the inside part with Fallorn) whether you think the chick that shot the guy committed murder. I say not, just curious what anyone else would have to say.
Well the scene you are describing is from The Big U, and boy that passage was hard to figure out even when it was a couple of pages long, it definitely took me a minute when it was compressed into a few sentances. Of course the narrator was the person drugged in the original which added the fun challenge of figuring out which was reality and what was hallucination.
shes probably technically safe on legal grounds, immenant danger to yourself or loved one. probably.
"Tiny landed on a burning sofa not far from my window. The impact forced much excess lighter fluid out of the foam cushions and created a burst of flame whose origin we did not know until later. Once the water had come back on, and we had soaked the elevator and the Christmas tree, we aimed the fire hose out my living-room window and drenched the heap of dimly burning furniture that was Tiny the Terrorist's funeral pyre. It was a few minutes past midnight, the second strangest midnight I have ever known, and my first semester at the Big U was at an end."
If she did get into any trouble, they most likely would call it "Manslaughter" because it wasn't premeditated and since it was in self-defense, she'd probably get it in the 2nd degree so either less jail time or none at all.
Isn't Manslaughter already lower than 2nd degree?cad3July 21 2006, 01:52:35 UTC
Back in my days of Criminal law classes, I thought it went something like: 1st Degree, 2nd Degree, Manslaughter.
As for charges, not likely if in the immediate defense of others. However, if the crime had already been committed, and they were getting dress and on their way out... then it could be argued that they would have gone peacefully and excessive force was used. Here it matters most w/ the D.A. D.A.'s are more like gods than M.D.'s. They get to pick who might get punished and who might not. And punishments can range from a slap on the wrist to multiple life sentences.
Beyond that, if the bullet didn't kill him but the fire did, the prosecution would argue that the proximate cause of him landing on the sofa in the first place was because of the bullet. Defense would counter with she didn't have knowledge that the sofa was there, or on fire... blah blah blah... but I do believe that he is dead prior to his departure from the window. And I digress...
I know who you're talking about...cad3July 21 2006, 01:56:24 UTC
You're totally talking about how Trish got drunk and then Frank, Jason and John took her upstairs after spiking her drink w/ GHB. Then later on that cute blonde girl... what was her name... Sarah, I think? Got the gun out of the master bedroom, and emptied the clip into John. It knocked him clean out window onto that sofa that those guys were burning because no one would take it away...
That was a crazy night man... I don't think I've ever had so much fun on a Tuesday... we should do it again real soon.
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shes probably technically safe on legal grounds, immenant danger to yourself or loved one. probably.
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1st Degree,
2nd Degree,
Manslaughter.
As for charges, not likely if in the immediate defense of others. However, if the crime had already been committed, and they were getting dress and on their way out... then it could be argued that they would have gone peacefully and excessive force was used. Here it matters most w/ the D.A. D.A.'s are more like gods than M.D.'s. They get to pick who might get punished and who might not. And punishments can range from a slap on the wrist to multiple life sentences.
Beyond that, if the bullet didn't kill him but the fire did, the prosecution would argue that the proximate cause of him landing on the sofa in the first place was because of the bullet. Defense would counter with she didn't have knowledge that the sofa was there, or on fire... blah blah blah... but I do believe that he is dead prior to his departure from the window. And I digress...
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That was a crazy night man... I don't think I've ever had so much fun on a Tuesday... we should do it again real soon.
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