Internet Observations

Apr 11, 2006 06:47

A couple of observations from following metafandom links, coupled with reading some internet message boards ( Read more... )

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dtissagirl April 11 2006, 11:45:49 UTC
1) I have absolutely no idea what "meta" actually means. It seems to have a different use in each area of the internet. Anyone care to give it a shot and explain the term?

Okay, I've actually researched this before, so. Meta's got several meanings. As a prefix, it can mean "beyond" or "after" or "transcending" or "more comprehensive" [which is one of the meanings fandom appropriated]. In computer lingo, it means "one level higher", i.e. if A is a concept, then meta-X is the data/notes/discussion about the concept A.

As an adjective, it means "self-referencing". For example, a movie-within-a-movie is meta. Or a book about books, or a song about songs, or, you know, when The X-Files made "Jose Chung's 'From Outer Space'". :)

/linguistics geek

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cleapet April 11 2006, 12:57:53 UTC
Thank you, that is very helpful.

So, on a tv show like "Lost", when the characters talk to each other about their circumstances on the island, i.e. something like...

Charley: "Wow, we're all going a little nuts here, being stuck on this island for so long."

or...

Kate: "Jack, we as a group really need a leader because blah blah blah."

That is not meta, that is just...dialogue, right? Those lines would only be meta if the characters got bored and decided to put together a little play re-enacting their adventures on the island and they were part of the script.

But then, I always thought the character Arntz was meta because I thought, on the part of the writers, he was supposed to represent the very vocal haters of "Lost" in the audience. But that's not necessarily 'meta' either, is it?

I know you don't watch "Lost" but hopefully these are general questions. It's what finally made me throw my hands up in the air about the word.

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mmaresca April 11 2006, 14:15:19 UTC
The Arntz stuff in Lost can be seen as meta. Those other things, that's just expository dialogue-- a bit unnecessary in strict "people wouldn't be saying that to each other" way, but a TV convention. Following the TV convention so new viewers can jump on, however, is not meta.

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par_avion April 11 2006, 14:54:45 UTC
I'm not up-to-date on Lost, but I just want to add the caveat that the show referencing fandom or behind-the-scenes issues is seen by some (including me) as meta ( ... )

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