So I saw The Hobbit

[cleolinda]

Due to the computer trouble (see the previous entry) and also my general and regrettable allergy to deadlines, I haven't finished the Breaking Dawn thing yet. However, even if I do finish it this weekend… I'm not sure when it will be appropriate to post it, given the really, really awful events in Connecticut. Charlie's Over-Protective Father

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[eruvadhril]

So I watched it twice in a row (I DO WHAT I WANT) and I kind of dealt with some of the weird tonal shifts a bit better the second time because I knew they were coming. Radagast's "I'd like to see them TRY", especially, swung from silly to badass for me on the second viewing. A lot of the Lol Dwarves shenanigans were still a bit silly, though.

MOAR ARMITAGE. forging things if possible please ARRRRRMS

I notice you make no mention of Riddles in the Dark. Did it blow your mind straight out of your ears?

[eliz]

I loved the movie. The extended bits I took with a grain of salt since they are making 3 movies here of one book. It was fun and fit the movie.

Andy, Andy, Andy. If Hollywood has paid attention at all and realized that is his performance with some digital makeup, he should at least be nominated if not win the supporting actor nomination.

Thorin was awesome. And the message of the movie, about not defeating darkness with power but with the little things we strive to do each day, perfect after the events of yesterday. I left reminded to believe in the kindness of others and while I can't do anything sweeping or grand in its own way, I can take time to be kind and brave in my everyday life, and hope I inspire others

[jubilantia]

I actually thought Radagast's try comment was pretty badass the first time around, and that was when I really started to take him seriously. I couldn't help loving all the dwarf shenanigans; I spent the whole movie with a huge grin on my face.

RE: MOAR ARMITAGE: go watch North and South. It's on Netflix. NOOOOOOW

OMG THE RIDDLES I almost died from the awesome. I was doing my best to squeal silently rather than out loud, but it was spot. on. The look on his face when he's all "Bagginses? Wot's... Bagginses?" was just so priceless, and it only got better.

[eruvadhril]

Omg I know North and South. It is DELICIOUS. If you have not heard the Georgette Heyer romance novel audiobooks he has done, you are missing out. Every person needs them in their life.

[cellardoor28]

*Not seen it yet but...*

The important question - does, at any point, Thorin sit down and start singing about gold? (niche joke ahoy!)

[eruvadhril]

Sort of.

[cleolinda]

He does have a nice long (serious) song, and I think gold was, in fact, mentioned.

[wiliqueen]

I hate 3D, and I was not even a little bit bothered by the HFR thing. I just explained why in detail on my review post, but the upshot is that once my brain figured out it needed another perceptual category to go with "film," "video" and "right in front of me," everything was copacetic. Basically it spent most of the prologue flipping back and forth between interpreting what I was seeing as "video" or "right in front of me," but it all settled down by the time Bilbo was accumulating Dwarves in his dining room.

The tonal whiplash thing makes sense as what people mean by "pacing problems," now that you mention it. So thanks for clearing that up, because I was genuinely puzzled.

I am, of course, now trying to figure out why it didn't really bother me, and I think the answer is that the world outside the Shire is just starting to become a really terrifying place. So Thorin & Co. are sort of traipsing through the middle of the transition. Or at least, that's the only way I can rationalize why I had no in-the-moment WTF response

[hippydippymama]

HA!!! I've always wanted to know more of Dis' story.

[wiliqueen]

YES! "Exiled Dwarf princess ends up grieving queen" is a helluva premise, really.

[hopeandmemory]

i was so excited that we saw lady dwarves running out of erebor in the prologue, i wonder if one of them was meant to be dis, haha.

[r_a_black]

My brain couldn't make itself love Thorin Hair-Breezing it over to fight Azog because it was so caught off-guard by the music they chose for it. I was just like I SEE WUT UR DOIN and I don't like iiiit! Like, I was mentally cringing.

Also mentally cringed during the scene in which Thorin is yelling at Bilbo like I SAID YOU'D NEVER FIT AMONG US and I was so wrong. Like, I knew it was coming, I knew the tone would have this sharp shift, but gaaah I couldn't handle it.

[hippydippymama]

I actually really didn't like that either. The hug seemed overdone and out of character. Maybe they're trying to set up the character as mercurial?

[katieupsidedown]

I ship it.

[hippydippymama]

I'm as big a slash fan as possible, but for some reason, I can't slash Thorin. My brain won't let it happen. Possibly I'm still trying to process the actual hot dwarfishness.

[lied_ohne_worte]

Hm, just came back from viewing it, and your review helped me understand my own reactions a bit better

[an_lagat_glas]

Yes, there were (visually obvious) female dwarfs! Also in the marketplace in Dale, I think. What do the books say about them?

[lied_ohne_worte]

Without consulting the books, so I might be misremembering/misinterpreting:

- They are rarely seen by outsiders, being "guarded jealously" or something, which has given rise to the foolish belief that there are none, and dwarves grow out of stone.

- They do in fact exist, but there are significantly fewer than there are men, and not all of them choose to marry. Both female and male dwarves may be more interested in their craft than in the other sex, or they might have wanted to marry someone they couldn't get, so they preferred not to marry at all, meaning that the ratio of dwarves who get married is rather low (I think I recall a third of male dwarves marry, or something), leading to problems making more dwarves.

- When dwarf women do go out, they are in clothing and appearance so similar to the men that outsiders think they are in fact male.