Comments | clothedmonkeys: What's the deal with Ron Paul and the polls

clothedmonkeys

What's the deal with Ron Paul and the polls

Oct 17, 2007 02:56

This guy seems to clean up on straw polls and internet polls which, of course, aren't terribly realistic, but doesn't even show up on most main stream polls ( Read more... )

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skamille October 17 2007, 12:46:14 UTC

He's really popular among the internet Libertarians. I wouldn't hate him so much if he weren't an anti-choice Libertarian, which I think is the most bullshit of bullshit.

clothedmonkeys October 17 2007, 18:35:01 UTC

I find his pro-life stance pretty obnoxious but, once again, the term "anti-choice" is just idiocy. The pro-life side's issue is not with choice.

Using the phrase "anti-choice" is like ranting about "libtards." It ensures that anyone who doesn't already suppport your position is going to ignore you.

tonapah October 17 2007, 22:23:13 UTC

My favorite of those terms is "pro-aborts."

skamille October 17 2007, 23:01:49 UTC

I think it is a very apt way to describe someone whose philosophy is all about freedom except when it comes to the female half of the population and the freedom to act on their own bodies.
In case you hadn't noticed, pro-lifers aren't exactly converting in droves because you call them "pro-life". And I certainly do not need you to lecture me about my word choice in your journal.

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ssaiscps October 17 2007, 17:33:56 UTC

I'm sure they ask about him in polls. He's enough of a candidate to show up on the TV debates. He's probably just the Howard Dean of this election cycle. ;)

clothedmonkeys October 17 2007, 18:32:29 UTC

That's the thing though, they don't. He's just not even an option many times in the do you prefer X Y Z Republican polls. Take a look.

ssaiscps October 17 2007, 18:52:04 UTC

Really? Here is the USA Today/Gallup poll. Paul is there, along with the real dead-enders like Tancredo, Brownback and Hunter, even dudes who have dropped out like Tommy Thompson and Gilmore. In that poll, it doesn't look like Ron Paul has distinguished himself from statistical noise (except for the last week of the poll, where he managed 5%). Ron Paul seems to be in the same league as Huckabee. Maybe the latter gets more coverage. But the polls seem okay in terms of who they are asking about.

tonapah October 17 2007, 20:43:10 UTC

I feel like I'm hearing about him everywhere, but I guess "everywhere" really is just the internet in my case. I don't think he's that popular with the Republican base, though (he's not anti-gay marriage, I believe, and he's not pro-Iraq War), so I highly doubt he has much of a chance at the nomination.

clothedmonkeys October 17 2007, 22:26:29 UTC

The interesting thing is that Giuliani, who appears to be the current frontrunner with Romney slipping (but who knows, it's a long way until the primary), does support civil unions. It's not same-sex marriage exactly, but it's better than most of his party. He's also pro-choice. (not that Giuliani isn't a liberty stealing asshole, he's just not quite as awful as Romney).

tonapah October 17 2007, 23:42:42 UTC

The pro-choice thing is really going to kill any chance Guiliani has. Though apparently some of the fundie groups are threatening to leave the Republicans, which would make things a lot more interesting. I'd like to see who the Republicans would nominate if they didn't have to pander to the fundies.

clothedmonkeys October 17 2007, 23:49:04 UTC

If he can get through the primary it will give him a better shot in the election I suspect. Who are the Republicans going to vote for, Hillary? The middle on the other hand will be more supportive of him than Romney. After getting slammed in 2006 the Republicans may not be sure they can win just my motivating their crazy religious core.

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