Dasein

Mar 17, 2009 23:45

This is my attempt to post more often. I have a problem with posting without any substance, but a wise Pokemon brought up the point that a substance conversation can still be fulfilling. Whether that means that it gains substance or that substance and meaningfulness are not interchangeable is a question up for debate ( Read more... )

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anonymous March 21 2009, 16:15:44 UTC
"we ought to make every moment of our worthless lives something that can make us smile, laugh, or otherwise be happy."

Does a world without meaning scare you? Do you want meaning to exist?

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clyptocrayon March 21 2009, 19:07:40 UTC
A world without meaning does not scare me; if it did, I suppose I would be agoraphobic. I would like there to be meaning in the world since it would give people much more to live for, but the scarce things that seems to follow any set pattern are frightfully rare and arguably are either not really ordered or are arbitrary at their base.

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anonymous March 23 2009, 00:12:31 UTC
Why do we then have desires to be happy, smile, laugh, etc...if the world is ultimately devoid of meaning, would it not be devoid of desires as well?

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clyptocrayon March 23 2009, 18:29:04 UTC
It is an attempt to produce meaning and, easily, the closest thing we have to making this world making sense or worth living. Happiness and all those things you enumerate end eventually, but as human being we ought to try to hold onto them as much as possible. Do things for yourself and for others so that happiness can be maintained as long as possible. There is nothing else in this world that has any "richness of meaning," as the saying goes, that is permanent. Those things with "richness of meaning" take hard work to get and to maintain, dying off is one way to escape the void, but alternatively you could try to keep happiness or whatever. The desire to do that is our natural instinct to survive.

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