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envisionjustice May 4 2005, 15:05:22 UTC
Scientific evidence isn't necessarily manipulated... it all depends on which bias you choose to look at.
What is faith, anyways?
I don't think that faith means believing in something and resisting doubts and questions from our good thinking brains. I think it means trusting - that our needs will be met, that we're loved, that we'll be ok, etc. I can have lots of faith without ever believing literally in the creation story, virgin birth, bodily resurrection, or anything else.
And I don't think that it takes any value away from the stories in the Bible to consider them myths rather than take them literally. And "myth" is not a degrading term - myths are wonderful stories that portray truth, just not on a literal level.
People who don't interpret the Bible literally don't necessarily have any less faith or any less understanding of truth than those who do.

Anyways. Good luck with those 2 jobs!

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coolwheels May 6 2005, 16:29:53 UTC
Honestly Jen, scientific evidence is manipulated more often than you think, you should have seen how many times ppl modified results in experiments in our biochem, organic chem and genetics labs in this past year alone ( ... )

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envisionjustice May 6 2005, 20:50:27 UTC
Hey Josh,
I'm not sure if undergraduate university students are responsible for providing the scientific community with information. I wouldn't be surprised about people manipulating results to get good marks!
I agree with you that it probably is more difficult to believe in something written 2000 yrs ago than it is to believe something that has perhaps more tangible evidence, but I wouldn't call that faith... I'd call it - well, just firm belief, I guess.
I don't think that faith needs to be opposed with the way our society presently understands our world.

than someone who chooses to take them as 'just a story'

I didn't mean "just". There's nothing "just" about choosing to believe the stories literally or not. Choosing to not believe it all literally doesn't need to take away anything from it's value, or the truth that it can communicate.

Perhaps it would be interesting to discuss in person sometime.

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