I agree, BC did an amazing job making Khan his own. I had been a little worried that he wouldn't have enough fire to go with the ice, but I was sold as soon as he started talking.
Getting back to the movie, I thought the beaming to the Klingon homeworld thingy was sort of hand-waved by the later reference to the Transwarp equations from the previous film? A devious, incredibly intelligent bad guy given access to the existence of those equations could do something with them, y/n?
Wellllll... I mean, I get that they were trying to explain that away, but I just didn't buy it. Transwarp beaming is pretty powerful, and Section 31 might have made it more so, but from Earth to the Klingon home planet is just too much of a stretch for me. If you can beam anywhere in the galaxy, why do they even need starships?
Then I remind myself that he was on course to be a genius level delinquent in the previous movie and accept his personality is going to be different to the original incarnation of Kirk accordingly.Yes
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I agree with much of what you said. And I loved it for the most part, with a few reservations. But this is exactly me, too: "When Spock did the "Khaaaaaaaaaaaan!" scream, I had to cover my face with embarrassment." Right on.
It just made no sense and was horrifically out of character. Not that I don't appreciate that losing Kirk could break Spock like that, but his vengeance chase of Khan was more than enough to show that.
I thought it was the worst of all the old movie references they were trying to cram in there. It's such an iconic Kirk moment, dependent on a huge amount of history and circumstance, and they should have left it alone.
his Kirk does not have the solid overachiever work history of his counterpart. He has very few laurels to rest on at this point
I've been thinking about this some today since I saw the movie. He also doesn't have the experience with how to get around certain rules or the experience to know he couldn't get away with not mentioning the Prime Directive breaking. Also, he hasn't had however many years to build a network of people to help him out at Starfleet Command when he does break the rules. The youngest captain in Starfleet history gig comes with few perks.
I'm kind of devastated that they killed Pike.
Yeah. I really loved him, but it seemed kind of obvious from the get-go that he wouldn't make it through the movie, unfortunately.
that conversation and Uhura being like, "oh, no, you're in this with me, buddy, man up."
Oh, god, I loved that. I loved how much Uhura got to do all over the place. And I am on the Kirk/Spock/Uhura train so hard right now - or at least the Uhura/Spock with Uhura & Kirk BFFs train, I'll take either.
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I agree, BC did an amazing job making Khan his own. I had been a little worried that he wouldn't have enough fire to go with the ice, but I was sold as soon as he started talking.
Getting back to the movie, I thought the beaming to the Klingon homeworld thingy was sort of hand-waved by the later reference to the Transwarp equations from the previous film? A devious, incredibly intelligent bad guy given access to the existence of those equations could do something with them, y/n?
Wellllll... I mean, I get that they were trying to explain that away, but I just didn't buy it. Transwarp beaming is pretty powerful, and Section 31 might have made it more so, but from Earth to the Klingon home planet is just too much of a stretch for me. If you can beam anywhere in the galaxy, why do they even need starships?
Then I remind myself that he was on course to be a genius level delinquent in the previous movie and accept his personality is going to be different to the original incarnation of Kirk accordingly.Yes ( ... )
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I thought it was the worst of all the old movie references they were trying to cram in there. It's such an iconic Kirk moment, dependent on a huge amount of history and circumstance, and they should have left it alone.
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I've been thinking about this some today since I saw the movie. He also doesn't have the experience with how to get around certain rules or the experience to know he couldn't get away with not mentioning the Prime Directive breaking. Also, he hasn't had however many years to build a network of people to help him out at Starfleet Command when he does break the rules. The youngest captain in Starfleet history gig comes with few perks.
I'm kind of devastated that they killed Pike.
Yeah. I really loved him, but it seemed kind of obvious from the get-go that he wouldn't make it through the movie, unfortunately.
that conversation and Uhura being like, "oh, no, you're in this with me, buddy, man up."
Oh, god, I loved that. I loved how much Uhura got to do all over the place. And I am on the Kirk/Spock/Uhura train so hard right now - or at least the Uhura/Spock with Uhura & Kirk BFFs train, I'll take either.
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