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crabby_lioness

Review Torchwood S2 10 From Out of the Rain

Mar 17, 2008 01:27

This week we've got another Classic Plot, albeit one that's not often seen, Monsters Emerging From the Cinema Film.

It has appeared more often in comic books than in filmed media, probably because of budget considerations. The last time I saw it was Leave it to Chance, but Marvel and DC have turned in their versions in the past. My husband and I ( Read more... )

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tencrush March 17 2008, 10:31:51 UTC

I was SO INSANELY RELIEVED that they had a conversation that wasn't about sex. I thought textually a lot of balls were dropped, nobody really went into any of the backstory both Jack and Ianto were kind of blatantly hurling at each other and the rest of the team, which I thought was a shame, but overall on the J/I front I thought it was pretty good.

I wanted to ask your thoughts on Ianto, do you reckon his family's dead? Like, all of them? I've been getting this inkling on that and they give us so little to go on when it comes to his personal life, but that's really a vibe I'm getting from him, I was wondering what other people thought.

love_jackianto March 17 2008, 15:37:18 UTC

'I wanted to ask your thoughts on Ianto, do you reckon his family's dead? Like, all of them?' I do get the feeling that they could be. Although that could be because we still know so very little about Ianto. It seems like Torchwood is all that Ianto has. In Adam for example whilst the others had memories of their families Ianto's memories were of Lisa and Jack.

tencrush March 17 2008, 16:32:16 UTC

That's kind of my reasoning, too. He's local, out of all the people who should have a bit of a home life/family, he seems to have the least, which I think is odd. And he was so nostalgic about this cinema thing, I figured if his dad was still alive, he'd have taken his dad for old time's sake, not his colleagues.

Ianto criccieth March 19 2008, 14:06:24 UTC

I agree. he's also the only one whose home we've never seen (unless I DID miss an episode in Season 1). We've seen Gwen's flat several times, Owen's penthouse-style place a couple of times and saw both Tosh's house in Season 1 and her new flat in Season 2. Hell, we've even seen Jack's crash-place underneath his office. But nothing at all for Ianto.

Interview with SFX just as Season 2 started, GDL says that Ianto has nothing other than Torchwood and Jack. Which kind of fits with his memories in "Adam" as you've said. He openly says that Torchwood gave his life meaning again. And the "you" and the look on his face as he looks at Jack makes it quite clear that Jack is the only other meaningful thing in his life.

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crabby_lioness March 22 2008, 21:58:59 UTC

Intimate without being flirty

Which is what you often have with a confident couple.

katiebugs18 March 17 2008, 13:29:37 UTC

My main reaction to this episode was boredom. And that's tragic because it's a Ianto-centric episode and we get so few of those. The background information is wonderful: we get snips of Ianto's family history, more proof that he likes old things, that he has a stronger link to history than the future (despite being part of Torchwood), and his moments with Jack are just lovely. The little smile he has when Jack is talking about his time with the carnies was so sweet and as you say, proves that they're building a real relationship ( ... )

crabby_lioness March 22 2008, 21:57:34 UTC

Be thankful for small blessings. At least no story this series plumbed the depths of tedium that was Random Shoes.

melody2tds March 17 2008, 14:42:03 UTC

I commented to you on your last review about the whole Jack/Ianto dynamic in this one, so you know I agree with you on that ( ... )

love_jackianto March 17 2008, 16:23:46 UTC

'Have you noticed that JB gives his best performances when he's working directly opposite GDL?' I noticed that too. I think it might be because Gareth's performances are always so layered that John really has to bring his A-game.

'...as long as it works. AND I get to watch it as often as possible. lol'
You and me both :D

tencrush March 17 2008, 16:36:32 UTC

Have you noticed that JB gives his best performances when he's working directly opposite GDL?
God, isn't that the truth? I never thought about the fact that that could be the reason I like Jack/Ianto, but you're right. Jack/Gwen annoys me on a certain level because of the confused and confusing way JB sometimes responds and reacts on screen to Eve.

kinkerbelle13 March 21 2008, 15:07:30 UTC

Wow, you hit the nail on the head. It's sort of... awkward at times, yeah? They have all these weird looks and glanecs and it's practically impossible to tell what they actually mean. The hint of romance is so poorly devloped and it always gives me really bad *squick* feelings. But with JB and GDL it's always crystal clear exactly what they're saying without saying anything.

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joonscribble March 17 2008, 16:16:52 UTC

Really enjoyed your review of this episode. I was a huge fan of this episode and was a bit dismayed by how much people seemed to hate on it. So it was nice to see a review that wasn't from a completely satisfied viewer, but one who didn't attack it. Your comparison of GDL's screen presence to Katherine Hepburn's is rather accurate and you articulated for me why I've always paid attention to GDL, even back in season 1 when he wasn't doing too much.

crabby_lioness March 22 2008, 21:40:05 UTC

Your comparison of GDL's screen presence to Katherine Hepburn's is rather accurate and you articulated for me why I've always paid attention to GDL, even back in season 1 when he wasn't doing too much.

Yes, even when surrounded by a dozen prettier women, as in Stage Door, you can't take your eyes off Hepburn. That is so like GDL in S1.