why is it that people who claim the left is "obviously wrong" on anthropomorphic global warming seem to mostly be just repeating logical fallacies over and over
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I find that arguing about global warming is akin to the gun control or abortion debate as seen in the US - no one is going to budge an inch and truth and reasoning soon give way to name calling, not that anyone believes a study supporting the other side in the first place.
I just say that whether you believe it or not, isn't it good that it's providing an incentive for humans to come up with renewable energy and to be more efficient about how they use it. That works out at lower energy costs all round. You can win over quite a few people by appealing to their wallets.
Arguments may convince lurkers watching. I have a friend who changed his mind about gun control from watching arguments on Usenet. I think I know the argument Chris is talking about, and while the instigator may not change his mind, others may find the links provided useful.
In this case, things started from name calling, and I was trying to figure out how to involve some science in the discussion. The answer turned out to be "You can't, not this time."
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I just say that whether you believe it or not, isn't it good that it's providing an incentive for humans to come up with renewable energy and to be more efficient about how they use it. That works out at lower energy costs all round. You can win over quite a few people by appealing to their wallets.
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