Comments | cruxofapotter: 027 - Harry Potter and the Troubled Saving People Thing

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027 - Harry Potter and the Troubled Saving People Thing | [Written]

Feb 25, 2011 22:22

There they go again, shipping us out to fight their battles like bloody pawns. Does it matter if we die, since they can bring us back again with no problem? Probably not. A lot of people get hurt, and the reward for helping the Malnosso out is more people getting hurt and experimented on. Shouldn't lives mean more than that?

death sucks btw, exercises in futility, saving people thing fail, he hates death in general, brooding teenager stupidity, aw the little rebel, he mad, possibly bitter, he really hates drafts, cannot save everyone, harry's temper ruins everything, still a teenager at heart

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[written / locked / action] loyalotter February 26 2011, 04:30:45 UTC

Harry...

[Wherever Harry is, Hermione will be trying to find him. Kinda hits close to home for her.]

[written / locked / action] cruxofapotter February 26 2011, 04:31:46 UTC

Hermione?

[He's in his room. She's welcome to come in as always.]

[action] loyalotter February 26 2011, 04:33:22 UTC

[She'll be there in about a minute.]

You've been thinking a lot about this, haven't you?

[action] cruxofapotter February 26 2011, 04:34:58 UTC

[He's on his bed, staring at the journal in annoyance.]

A lot more than I probably should have.

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[Voice] no_use_running February 26 2011, 05:48:57 UTC

[She has a lot she could say: She could explain her own reasons for being willing to become a soldier, the ones that even go beyond wanting to be close to Usagi. She could explain what they all hope to protect. She could explain why even being a pawn - and she's been a pawn before this - can sometimes lead to strength. But what she says is much simpler, the girl who would have rather only been a doctor and never a soldier.]

Lives should.

[Voice] cruxofapotter February 26 2011, 05:58:40 UTC

[Indeed, there's a lot behind his reasoning on this too.]

It's ridiculous to waste them like that, even if they are replaceable.

Re: [Voice] no_use_running February 26 2011, 06:00:46 UTC

I don't see it as a waste, or replaceable. That's why I'm going. I want to protect the lives I'm going with, because they're not replaceable or something to be wasted.

[Voice] cruxofapotter February 26 2011, 06:03:13 UTC

[... She has a point there.] I hadn't really looked at it that way.

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[voice] stilldontgotit February 26 2011, 07:11:04 UTC

It might not matter to them, but just because they treat us like puppets doesn't mean our lives our worthless.

It's all about what you make of your life.

[voice] cruxofapotter February 26 2011, 15:11:02 UTC

They shouldn't have to be tossed aside like that. We should be allowed to make our lives however we want them to.

[voice] stilldontgotit February 27 2011, 19:39:34 UTC

Yeah, but try telling that to the Malnosso. They've got their own agenda, like it or not.

[Written] semper_cogitans February 26 2011, 10:17:37 UTC

[Wisdom from someone. Robert's been asking himself these same questions for awhile, and it bothers him that the Malnosso don't care - simply do not care about their subjects in any way.]

They most certainly should mean more than that. Sapient lives should always be treated with the respect they deserve - and yet these vile excuses for scientists have nothing but contempt for our rights.

[Written] cruxofapotter February 26 2011, 15:14:05 UTC

[It's been bothering Harry for a while, to the point where he doesn't care who hears him complain about it. He hates to see human lives thrown away like that.]

Exactly. We're all humans with thoughts, hopes, dreams, and flaws like anything else. They keep drafting people like this and still carting people off to experiment on them like it's nothing. It's vile.

Re: [Written] semper_cogitans February 26 2011, 18:49:44 UTC

I would not even mind the experimenting so much if they would just ask us for consent. They cannot even give us the simple courtesy of explaining why they do what they do - a Terran scientist would have to do that by law if zie were to make a scientific study involving sapients.

And this war is beyond reprehensible. Scientists involving themselves in war? How barbaric can they possibly be? [Robert has to stop for a moment to indulge in his version of cold, quiet rage at the Malnosso, who have done everything in their power to corrupt Doctor Mizuno. He only hopes she'll still be the same person when she returns.] And to force their subjects to fight...

I cannot understand. As a scientist myself, I know that experiments are useful sources of data - but data obtained under duress are hardly suitable regardless. And why must ethics be superseded for this? [All these sapients, fighting a war that wasn't even their own. Killing and dying for a purpose that didn't even make sense.]

[Written] cruxofapotter February 27 2011, 01:53:27 UTC

After being here for so long, I don't think consent could be an option for some of us. People come back in all kinds of bad shape. It'd be a better approach than hauling people off though.

We don't really have anything to gain for it. Both sides have it out for us. I don't know all that much about science personally, but I don't think this is what science is about.

You've never run into anything like this have you? You don't know other scientists that would treat people this way? [After transitioning to the Wizarding World, he hasn't had all that much experience with science.]

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[ written ] hippocraticly February 26 2011, 14:16:13 UTC

Yeah, they should.

[ written ] cruxofapotter February 26 2011, 15:15:47 UTC

To the Malnosso, they don't.

[ written ] hippocraticly February 26 2011, 15:35:55 UTC

They're scientists. What do you expect?

[ written ] cruxofapotter February 26 2011, 17:25:20 UTC

Aren't scientists supposed to have a better purpose than that?

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