027 - Harry Potter and the Troubled Saving People Thing | [Written]

Feb 25, 2011 22:22

There they go again, shipping us out to fight their battles like bloody pawns. Does it matter if we die, since they can bring us back again with no problem? Probably not. A lot of people get hurt, and the reward for helping the Malnosso out is more people getting hurt and experimented on. Shouldn't lives mean more than that?

death sucks btw, exercises in futility, saving people thing fail, he hates death in general, brooding teenager stupidity, aw the little rebel, he mad, possibly bitter, he really hates drafts, cannot save everyone, harry's temper ruins everything, still a teenager at heart

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[Written] semper_cogitans February 26 2011, 10:17:37 UTC
[Wisdom from someone. Robert's been asking himself these same questions for awhile, and it bothers him that the Malnosso don't care - simply do not care about their subjects in any way.]

They most certainly should mean more than that. Sapient lives should always be treated with the respect they deserve - and yet these vile excuses for scientists have nothing but contempt for our rights.

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[Written] cruxofapotter February 26 2011, 15:14:05 UTC
[It's been bothering Harry for a while, to the point where he doesn't care who hears him complain about it. He hates to see human lives thrown away like that.]

Exactly. We're all humans with thoughts, hopes, dreams, and flaws like anything else. They keep drafting people like this and still carting people off to experiment on them like it's nothing. It's vile.

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Re: [Written] semper_cogitans February 26 2011, 18:49:44 UTC
I would not even mind the experimenting so much if they would just ask us for consent. They cannot even give us the simple courtesy of explaining why they do what they do - a Terran scientist would have to do that by law if zie were to make a scientific study involving sapients.

And this war is beyond reprehensible. Scientists involving themselves in war? How barbaric can they possibly be? [Robert has to stop for a moment to indulge in his version of cold, quiet rage at the Malnosso, who have done everything in their power to corrupt Doctor Mizuno. He only hopes she'll still be the same person when she returns.] And to force their subjects to fight...

I cannot understand. As a scientist myself, I know that experiments are useful sources of data - but data obtained under duress are hardly suitable regardless. And why must ethics be superseded for this? [All these sapients, fighting a war that wasn't even their own. Killing and dying for a purpose that didn't even make sense.]

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[Written] cruxofapotter February 27 2011, 01:53:27 UTC
After being here for so long, I don't think consent could be an option for some of us. People come back in all kinds of bad shape. It'd be a better approach than hauling people off though.

We don't really have anything to gain for it. Both sides have it out for us. I don't know all that much about science personally, but I don't think this is what science is about.

You've never run into anything like this have you? You don't know other scientists that would treat people this way? [After transitioning to the Wizarding World, he hasn't had all that much experience with science.]

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Re: [Written] semper_cogitans February 27 2011, 02:10:33 UTC
Science is about learning, understanding the world; it is about uncovering the structure and form - or lack thereof, in some cases - of the universe. It has nothing to do with this brutality that the Malnosso enact on us - there is no rhyme or reason to what they do, no protocol behind their actions, and no visible intent behind their procedures. They just... do whatever they like to us, without us being able to have any sort of input whatsoever into the process.

[Robert sighs heavily, shaking his head privately to himself - even if this person didn't understand science, the Malnosso were giving nothing but a bad impression.]

If I have ever seen a scientist like this, zie has been quite firmly installed in a Terran jail. Nobody like this would ever be allowed to perform the barbarism that the Malnosso perform on us. [Robert's mind flickers briefly to the black markets of Terra, but he has a naive hope that one day that'll be crushed completely.]

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