Lord of the Rings Exhibition in Berlin.

Apr 26, 2007 14:40

Yesterday I made a trip to Berlin to see the exhibition of film props done for the LotR movies. Again I was overwhelmed by the endless devotion of all those artists, conceptual designers and craftspeople to get everything not just right, but perfect. I have several book about the making of LotR, but it's different to see the things in original.
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sirielle April 26 2007, 16:26:13 UTC
You've seen it! I was going to see it, but now it's probably too late, it least till the end of April or till tomorrow (need to check). And I've got only 1,5-2 hours to Berlin by car. Again looking at others proved to be wrong - I was going to go there together with people from JRRT board we were going to arrange it some way, now I guess they keep silent and went on their own (or will not go at all). I wonder if there will be any other chance to see it in this part of Europe/world ( ... )

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dagmarjung April 26 2007, 17:42:48 UTC
The exhibition is open until (including) April 29. The opening hours are 10.00 - 20.00. The location is Filmpark Babelsberg (Potsdam), so the drive should be even shorter for you than all the way to Berlin ( ... )

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dagmarjung April 27 2007, 09:11:13 UTC
Concerning figurines:
I have been making miniature dolls and animals for many years, first for myself when I was a kid, but later also for sale. In fact some of my earliest figurines back from the seventies were Aragorn and an elf with his horse. They both have hands like frying pans and I didn't like how Aragorn's face came out. But I learned better since then and now I can do relly good miniatures.
Sad thing is, the working hours/selling prize relation for hand made miniatures is so low that working at MacDonald looks really attractive in comparison. Besides, the hobby scene is pretty dead here.

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wulfila April 26 2007, 17:12:19 UTC
That sounds like a good trip to Berlin. :)

...because it is all so damn convincing.

Is it? While some things about the films were good, the overall look of the "cultural" things (as opposed to the landscapes, etc.) did not quite convince me. So much of it looked a bit too much like Viollet-le-Duc and Walt Disney teaming up to do the Dark Ages... Overall, there was a certain lack of authenticity (don't get me started on Grond! ;))... But then, people would probably say the same about my vision of ME if I had the means to make it "real", so it is purely a matter of taste. ;)

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dagmarjung April 26 2007, 17:57:25 UTC
Well... all I can say it's probably a matter of taste. To me, it was convincing. The style and handwriting of Lee and Howe, whose artwork I love anyway, strongly influenced the style of each and everything and to me, all felt very connected and well thought and often with immense depth, even if that sounds a bit overdone. For example, details like the change of style in both Elven and Numenorean/Gondorian armour from the prologue to the Third Age. Or all the beautiful stuff from Rohan. And I can gush endlessly about Moria.
There were of course some things that didn't feel quite as convincing to me as the rest, mainly the strangely isolated city of Minas Tirith, which looked not quite alive and inhabited. But I like the style and architecture of M T in general, it was only some more detail that I missed. (fields, farms and gardens outside; signs of dayly life inside).

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wulfila April 26 2007, 20:08:48 UTC
Minas Tirith seemed like sort of a strange fantasy-ish Mont Saint Michel to me, with everyone dressing monkishly alike. ;)

But then, I am an absolute spoilsport when it comes to films, and twice as bad when it comes to films based on books. ;)

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dagmarjung April 26 2007, 20:36:23 UTC
Yes, the uniformity in clothing added to the artificial feeling of the city. But that doesn't mean I didn't like the style as such, it only needed more variety in colour.

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tehta April 26 2007, 18:01:12 UTC
Oh, I am so glad you enjoyed yourself so! I saw (something like) this exhibition with Maggie in Boston, and loved it--especially the things I didn't really pay attention to in the movie, like the wizards' studies and Sauron's jockstrap. And fake Boromir's nosehair.

I understand what you mean about the art leaving no room for others' imaginations in many cases. E.g, I really like the Rohirrim. I am not so sure about the Elves, however: I agree with Sirielle about their hair, and I think they might have had more variety in styles, and development of styles, across the ages.

I would like to use this opportunity to bring back the discussion of whether Elves had historical museums and what such museums might contain. (I think mine do have some rooms displaying items carried over the Helcaraxe, and The Story In My Head also has G discovering his favourite hairbrush in a Museum of Gondolin after his return.)

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dagmarjung April 26 2007, 19:19:15 UTC
Drat. Seems I missed Boromir's nose hair ( ... )

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tehta April 26 2007, 21:05:26 UTC
The vignette is posted up at my other journal, cirth. Just after the one about Erestor and Glorfindel's old scroll, hee.

I think Elves would tend to be conservative, but now and then some influential, innovative sort (like Feanor or Maeglin) would get a chance to revolutionarize armour design. Especially in the First Age, when they were figuring out what armour should be like.

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dagmarjung April 26 2007, 22:28:35 UTC
Silly me, I forgot your sockpuppet identity!

Yes, elves surely had inventive minds. I only can't see them change fashion styles every year and have a revolution in music taste every twenty years or so. They would keep what they like for long periods of time and make changes only slowly, unless there is a new situation that calls for speedy development, like weapons and armour for the needs of M-E.

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broom__rider April 27 2007, 04:42:18 UTC
Ah, it's good to hear that you had a great time at the exhibition! I wish I could visit it!

All the visuals are so stunningly perfect. If only I could say the same about the script.
A absolutely agree with you on this account. In fact, I feel somewhat sad for the artists and specialists, who were working on the creating such a perfect scenery/costumes/everything visuals of the movie, that happened to be so... so empty of ideas of the books. (In fact, it bothers me so much, that I still can not bring myself to buying the movies.)
However, it seems that the exhibition itself was great, and that you enjoyed it. Heh, I love your impression of those "museum exhibits": "#1:Elven dagger from the First Age..." he-he, it must be extremely cool to see such explanatory text:))

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dagmarjung April 27 2007, 05:51:15 UTC
It was very cool indeed. I love going to museums and I loved to see Gandalf's pipe treated with the same amount of dignity usually reserved for remarkeable cultural artefacts of history.

I wouldn't say the movie was empty of Tolkien's ideas. Also I'm not such a canon freak to condemn every alteration from the book, like removing Glorfindel or Tom Bombadil or the purge of the Shire. A book is not a film. But it's undeniable that every weakness, plot hole, illogical moment or whacky character portrayal is due to a stray of the script from Tolkien's text. And it's sad to realize the same incredible anmount of work on the project as a whole could have resulted in a better story so easily. So I will love the films forever for the many good things in them, and feel a bit sad for what they fell short of.

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broom__rider April 27 2007, 06:22:24 UTC
Well, it's not about removing Glorfindel or Tom Bombadil or the purge of the Shire.

It's more about Arwen (and her role), and Elrond, if speaking about the portraying of the characters; and about the difference between the atmosphere of the book, and that of the movies, in general. I m sure that you understand what I mean, for your own LOTR artworks have a great book-like atmosphere.

On the other hand, there were some nice surprises in the movies, besides the wonderfully done visuals: Legolas, for example. I had really hated the movie version of him, when I first had seen the preview, but when I was watching the movie, I found him to look and (more important!) to move elf-like, and I appreciated that. Too bad that Legolas relationship with Gimli are not shown at all, but as you have said, a book is not a movie...

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dagmarjung April 27 2007, 08:47:33 UTC
Yes, there was a lot of character murdering all around... Sulking!Elrond, Mary Sue Arwen, and Faramir, Denethor and even Gandalf got their fair share too. (I hated Gandalf kicking Pippin in the side and so destroying his moment of greatness when he offers Denethor his service.) But most of all I dislike the way Frodo was shown as a complete weakling from the very beginning. The power and influence of the ring could have been shown in other ways, not by removing Frodo's intelligence, willpower and resilience. Let's not even talk about Frodo sending Sam home... *shudders ( ... )

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