Comments | dakinigirl: MRF and the end of an era

dakinigirl

MRF and the end of an era

Aug 11, 2006 09:24

Well - we finally got some info on MRF. It appears that it is as follows: there is an all day work party on Sunday beginning when someone shows up and ending when we're done - whatever that means. Also - if you want to be part of the street fighting, you have to work bunny fencing and have your dues paid up in full. Here's the end of an era ( Read more... )

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hisdaveness August 11 2006, 14:42:15 UTC

Well, there's been a minimum requirement for MRF for each of the 4 years I've been in Ring. And I don't think anyone's ever been asked to leave for not meeting it. (Tom's worked MRF in past years, and he's still with us, Athena had parental permission issues at one point, and she's still around.) This year has the same policy as I've seen since 2002. I think some people who've been on the fence are going to use this as an excuse to drop out. Nothing's really changed with Ring's games. I think we're just in the middle of a backlash from the Halloween fiasco.

And it's true, since I joined in November 2001, I've never seen Chris work bunny fencing. Wait, come to think of it, he did adjude a couple rounds in Bay City.

dakinigirl August 11 2006, 16:24:45 UTC

The policy may look the same, but it's the addition of the "member in good standing" part that's different. The issue isn't the 4 days, the issue is the random ok of who can and can't work without it affecting their membership.

If Chris wants to see people work, he needs to put on a costume and get out there and work Bunny Fening at MRF too. It certainly would go a long way towards gaining some of the members respect back.

hisdaveness August 11 2006, 16:46:04 UTC

I'm pretty sure the "members in good standing" bit happened the last several years. That's not a new phrase to come out of Chris's mouth. I know I've heard it often enough that it registers the same way as the phrase "Ring is foldling in 4 months." 8^)

dakinigirl August 11 2006, 17:48:16 UTC

Amen brother! That's true enough :)

He also said that the group is closing in December this year and that we should all make our plans accordingly. Does that mean I should stop making plans or will the emotional blackmail just continue?

elwenlinuiel August 11 2006, 16:01:08 UTC

University of Chicago, but anyways... Yes and no. We have always had a minimum requirement since I've been there, but I don't recall anything about losing good standing for not making the requirement. Also, I also had parental permission issues, which meant that I always barely made the minimum. I took a lot of crap from maestro and others for that, though it's possible they thought they were just teasing me. So I guess I do agree with Dave. But I do think this may be a catalyst to some people leaving. I think that Chris knows who are the people in "good standing" as far as he's concerned. I don't think it really matters about the attendance. I told him last night that I would not work a single hour of bunnyfencing, because I will be out of town for all but one weekend of MRF. If I do go (and I told him this), I would go as a patron, so I could enjoy the fair. Since Chris wants to get in my pants right now, he just smiled greasily and said of course that was alright, and it was a shame, but everyone understood, and my standing in the ( ... )

dakinigirl August 11 2006, 16:22:15 UTC

Ok - so Chris can ramdomly decide who it's "ok" for? What about those people he doesn't like or wrongly (in the case of Athena) thinks is leaving right away?

If he is going to apply the rules and the exceptions can I please have a list of what the "acceptable" reasons are? Please? Just so I can have something in writing when wants to come back later and say my reason wasn't acceptable...

elwenlinuiel August 12 2006, 01:16:14 UTC

no! I'm not saying it's ok, I'm specifically saying it's not ok. I think it's ridiculous. But you and I know that's just how maestro is. Not that that makes it acceptable either.

bodacious_wench August 11 2006, 16:45:25 UTC

At company meeting on Tuesday-let me check my notes-Chris said you have to work a minimum of 4 days to remain a member of the group. The exceptions, of course, are you have to work every weekend, there's family stuff to attend to, etc.

To do street fighting-you have to be paid up.

dakinigirl August 11 2006, 17:37:36 UTC

So according to your notes, a person could go out, do one or two street fights and leave, not having to work bunny fencing? That would work well sine there are several people who can't do the full day work or full weekend work who can afford two or threee hours only to go out and fight.

I'm sure that since that was what Chris said, there are many people who will be happy as long as they can come up with the cash to pay everything off!

bodacious_wench August 12 2006, 02:22:02 UTC

you are twisting my words to suit your purpose. And some folk in Ring owe many hundreds of dollars in dues incl. myself.

bodacious_wench August 13 2006, 16:57:06 UTC

There's no twisting ivolved. We are going by the letter of what you wrote. If you don't like the way it sounds, that's your problem and you don't have to read this persons journal.

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chimingsword August 11 2006, 17:24:21 UTC

The truth of the matter is that Maestro has always decided what was acceptable or not acceptable in terms of meeting "requirements". Anyone he thinks is on his "side" will be permitted to work/not work as they are able. Anyone who isn't on his "side" will be forced to adhere to at least the minimum stated days (which btw are the same as last year except last year I believe we had more active members..) For my point, in addition to the dog-care issue I also have rehearsals on Saturdays now and quite often I need my weekends for work - sometimes its the only time I can get anything done ( ... )

bodacious_wench August 11 2006, 20:37:00 UTC

He did-The Hartland kids will be helping us out.

dakinigirl August 13 2006, 17:02:02 UTC

Um ...no he didn't. If that was the case then there would only need for one ring member on site each day and there would be a schedule of who from heartland is signed up for each day. Do you know if we havev that info? If you do, then perhaps Maestro should let everyone wh is new know so theydon't have to be emotionally coerced into participating when they really can't. BTW, sub-contracting involves "contracting". that means that there is a contract outlining what is expected, what is each parties responsibilies and what the consequences are if there is non-performancec on either part. Wendy, that is the definition and it is not what Chris ddid with Heartland. Just getting "some" kids to "show up" to "help out" is not sub contracting and even you know that!