What I brutally Honestly think (a novel)shinecryzephyrMay 27 2007, 08:45:07 UTC
Without knowing Natalie well, and without knowing Ryen, I want to give my opinion but I don't want to offend you. It seems like that's easier to do in a conversation, so call me or IM me sometime if you want to talk about it and hear what I brutally, honestly think. But the first thing I'd ask is, why do you call her you best friend? I don't think she's a bad person or that she will necessarily always be this way, but isn't she younger than you? It just seems like she's not ready to be a mature, self-less person. You can love her, but it seems apparent that you can't depend on her. I know that that makes you angry, but you cannot change her. And you cannot make people promise things. I feel like you can and should rise above her actions and immature drama. But you have to accept that that is better for you; that it's not about "showing her how it feels" and leaving her behind in a vengeful way. Maybe you have to deal with her, to some extent, in an emotionally-removed way
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Re: What I brutally Honestly think (a novel)dance_for_rainMay 27 2007, 16:53:13 UTC
i think i should be offended but i'm not. i may be a little too dumbed down right now to see any offense.
she's my best friend because she's here and she listens. she comes through every so often, when i come to her for problems. but the bad here outweighs the good.
i've actually though about what you've said on where i am in life and how distant we are. and i know i can't change her. but we've talked about it. it angers me that she says she'll try to do things different and then doesn't. she doesn't try and i see it as not caring.
this whole thing--me lashing out and telling her everything that she's done to hurt me--is me trying to defend myself and get myself better.
so far it's not working.
thank you emily...i hope i understood your point correctly?
Eh, by his actions when he dated he really likes the attention.
I mean, who tells their girlfriend, "Oh Emma's friend has to constantly reminded I have a girlfriend, isn't that cute?"
Maybe it's not her, but the attention? He likes it. He needs it, I starved him for it.
Also, we can get into his White Knight complex where he has to save the poor depressed girl from herself. He has a very long running history of this.
But still. Genuinely. I hope,she makes him happy. In friendship or otherwise.
After all the catalyst to the demise of our relationship was her. We could withstand suicide attempts, car wrecks, porn careers, physical abuse, but not some girl giving him the attention I couldn't.
So I just want it to be worth it.
I want him to be happy. I know I made him miserable.
I just feel like you deserve so much better Emma. I am free all week, pretty much, any time of day. I love you, and I understand the hurt of strained friendships. I hope I can be here for you any way I can. Call if you need anything. I love you.
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she's my best friend because she's here and she listens. she comes through every so often, when i come to her for problems. but the bad here outweighs the good.
i've actually though about what you've said on where i am in life and how distant we are. and i know i can't change her. but we've talked about it. it angers me that she says she'll try to do things different and then doesn't. she doesn't try and i see it as not caring.
this whole thing--me lashing out and telling her everything that she's done to hurt me--is me trying to defend myself and get myself better.
so far it's not working.
thank you emily...i hope i understood your point correctly?
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Guess I am just a piece of trash so easily discarded.
Glad to know he lied about her visiting him at work.
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I hope he's happy with her. I hope she's what I'm not.
Honestly.
As much as it stings.
But what can I say? I'm moving in with two dudes.
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...thanks
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I mean, who tells their girlfriend, "Oh Emma's friend has to constantly reminded I have a girlfriend, isn't that cute?"
Maybe it's not her, but the attention? He likes it. He needs it, I starved him for it.
Also, we can get into his White Knight complex where he has to save the poor depressed girl from herself. He has a very long running history of this.
But still. Genuinely. I hope,she makes him happy. In friendship or otherwise.
After all the catalyst to the demise of our relationship was her.
We could withstand suicide attempts, car wrecks, porn careers, physical abuse, but not some girl giving him the attention I couldn't.
So I just want it to be worth it.
I want him to be happy.
I know I made him miserable.
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