Comments | danschank: ten good things returns (february 2007)

danschank

ten good things returns (february 2007)

Mar 03, 2007 01:50

hi folks... so, i guess december and january's editions of this have bitten the dust. i'm gonna try to get back to doing this monthly again though, and i've been brainstorming things to mention for a while now (some of the following is old news in real life, actually)... anyway...

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out 1 erin_lindsay March 3 2007, 18:37:30 UTC

ack, i want to see this so bad! i heard from someone, somewhere that the PFA was trying to get a print of it but that it was really expensive. i guess it may be a possibility in the future. i'm crossing my fingers.

also, elephants are awesome. i had an elephant obsession when i was younger. there was a phase when i was really into African animals...weird huh? i think you should throw giraffes into the mix. they are so magical and strange.

Re: out 1 danschank March 4 2007, 18:50:42 UTC

(i think i may have secretly been hoping to bait you into a discussion of cool animals with this post)

yeah, when i was reading that book the shadow of the sun (by my beloved ryszard kapuscinski, who just died), i seem to remember him mentioning that in certain african societies, elephants are revered and even considered god-like because they don't harm other living things, and they're too big to be destroyed by other animals. how awesome is that? plus i like in indian minature paintings where they have ornate carpets across their backs.

didn't out 1 screen with the rivette retrospective out there? if it makes you feel better, i think i liked celine and julie a bit more, though they're very similar in feeling.

Re: out 1 erin_lindsay March 4 2007, 21:39:20 UTC

ooh, i love indian miniature paintings so much!

yeah, i refrained from mentioning a bunch of other animals that are cool. like, seahorses, narwhals, elk, lemurs..etc.

'out 1' wasn't part of the rivette retrospective here. i was really bummed. especially after i heard that it showed with the program in other cities. i totally got cheated! i don't see how it could be better than 'Celine and Julie..' but i still want to see it.

i'm responding to your first comment cause you forgot to log-in danschank March 5 2007, 00:38:00 UTC

...figured you'd want the email notification...

anyway, the museum has a really great little collection of indian minature ptgs. right now the current show is all about animals in indian art, actually! there's a really great one involving an army of monkeys.

i don't think i know what a narwhal is, but it sounds like a word you would use as slang (e.g. "i was so stoked for vegan chorizo, but it ended up being all narwhal...")

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snakes and sharks are my favorite animals murdermystery March 3 2007, 20:16:36 UTC

I had heard about that Rivette before and my interest was piqued, but I think your explination increases the possibly of me actively seeking it out. Unfortunately the only thing I can find on the interweb is the 12 hour version, unsubtitled.

Also, I've had a tiny love affair with that Carla Bozulich CD, I think I like it even more than the Scott Walker album (to be fair I've listened to the Bozulich album more). Also, despite the fact I always listen to the album as a whole, Evangelista 1 is still my favorite song, mainly for the little piano part (I think?) that hits about six minutes into the song. How to Survive Being Hit By Lightning is my second fave.

you have also succeeded in 'selling' Dhalgren to me... assuming I ever actually get back to the library to return my fourteen overdue books.

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Re: snakes and sharks are my favorite animals murdermystery March 4 2007, 19:27:26 UTC

it's on karagarga!

snakes are probably my longest-running love in the animal kingdom danschank March 4 2007, 18:56:38 UTC

yeah, the bozulich song i posted isn't necessarily my fave, it's just the one that seemed most useful out of context.

and i agree that it's more listenable than the scott walker album. i think what i like about that scott record is that i only want to listen to it like once a month. i remember a few years back, my friend jack sold me on this really creepy avant-garde record (terre thaemlitz's lovebomb... which you might like, even though i'm almost certainly misspelling the last name) by saying that "it's the type of record you will only listen to once a year."

also, as i said to hannah in a comment above, you might be interested in delany's later, pornographic stuff too. i haven't read any of it, but-- from what i gather-- it seems a pretty good fit to your interests.

(here i am literally recommending porn on the internet. i hope my mom isn't reading this. at least it's books. no images. hahaha...)

brooklynnotes March 3 2007, 23:27:49 UTC

Dude, i am so glad you read Dhalgren! it is one of my favorite books. Have you read Motion of Light in Water? It rules, and is a nice companion I think to Dhalgren.

thanks for the plug, d00d... danschank March 4 2007, 19:00:25 UTC

the only other delany book i've read is nova, which i didn't like nearly as much. it's funny-- everyone i know that really likes him seems to have a different favorite. i picked up an old paperback of triton, which might be next... but i'll certainly add motion to the list. i have a feeling i might end up reading a lot of his work, actually. dhalgren was pretty good fodder for how i've been thinking about making paintings and stuff actually.

(books and film are waay more important to me anymore than other painters, and sometimes i fear that the reasons for that won't make a lick of sense to anyone else, but i guess that's kind of good too, right?)

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if you're gonna be up and on a bus at 5:30 in the morning... danschank March 4 2007, 19:07:42 UTC

... you migthas well wear a cowboy hat.

(wakka wakka wakka)

man, out 1 is NOT the film to see on little sleep. i hope you got a cup of coffee. and yeah, that kid staring at the camera is one of the very best moments in the film. it took me like an hour to figure out that 2 of the main characters were never actually in the movie, btw... totally frustrating, and even more so with me because i can never get plots and character names sorted out. i'm the jackass who has to ask what's going on like 40 minutes into the spy movie, etc.

hogg isn't quite as high on the list as the madman, possibly because everything i've heard about it leads me to believe it's fucked up in a way where even i "might not wanna go there." i dunno. i have a lot to read right now, i guess. though if you keep mentioning the recognitions, it'll keep knawing away at me till i plow into it. seems like such a commitment though ( ... )

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Re: if you're gonna be up and on a bus at 5:30 in the morning... danschank March 5 2007, 00:43:10 UTC

i always feel weird reading stuff aloud, but doing it with your ladyfriend sounds very cute, regardless...

yeah, someday i'll undoubtedly read nightwood too. i don't even know much about it, other than it seems to be on the bookshelves of a lot of people who's opinions i take seriously.

and yeah, rivette is definitely doing something all his own, stylistically. i take it you've seen celine and julie go boating, correct? it's weird to think of him as opposed to the godard stuff of the time (i saw a screening of numero deux last night), because rivette is so light in a certain way, whereas godard (in that era at least) can be downright humorless (not that i don't enjoy him still).

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bing_crosby March 4 2007, 17:23:19 UTC

hey, got to this post via brooklynnotes thanks for many of these heads-ups, esp. Bozelich as I have had her complete-album cover of Willie Nelson's "Red Headed Stranger" on repeat for various weeks at a time.

Also, in combination of #s 6 and 3, I will share a (real) academic title for a paper in an upcoming conference near me: "Managing Elephant Labor: Writing Animals into the History of American Business."

adding you. hope that is ok? Feel free to add back (also feel free not to).

added back, of course danschank March 4 2007, 19:10:52 UTC

brooklynnotes has a fine friends-list. welcome aboard...

i should probably pick up that red headed stranger record. sounds great. hell, i should probably pick up willie's original. i think my dad has it.

that's a great academic paper title... oh, how i miss grad school, where you can be as obscure as ya wanna be...

bing_crosby March 5 2007, 14:18:12 UTC

cool. and I see in a comment above that you are into Kapuscinski.. god he is really unbelievable. I had never heard of him until a few years ago, when I got a bunch of his books from a friend who worked with his translator. I have actually not read the Shadow of the Sun (isnt that the last one, about Africa generally?) but The Shah of Shahs and Another Day of Life.. oh wait, and The Emperor. God, all of them are amazing. BTW I lost a bet once for the price of dinner over the spelling of his last name.. I still don't know it offhand. There have to be some zs and ys in there.

danschank March 6 2007, 04:30:53 UTC

yeah, i love kapuscinski (which, btw, you are spelling correctly, save a few accent marks that i don't seem to be able to make on my computer... the "z" is in his first name)... in fact, i'm reading imperium as we speak. he's totally amazing-- it's a shame he passed away a little over a month ago.