Scumbag of the day

[daralharb]

A few months ago I caught a doco on the ABC outlining the 'plight' of Mamdouh Habib. Afterwards I had the impression that whilst the man was an Osama T-Shirt wearing nut with the emotional maturity of a 6 year old, he probably wasn't dangerous. I was disappointed to learn later that Habib confessed to having prior knowledge of the WTC attacks, in

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[viking_hero]

Fuck yeah

If I ever see Habib I'm going to break a beer bottle on the faggots head.

[jeanius]

>> I was disappointed to learn later that Habib confessed to having prior knowledge of the WTC attacks, in fact he'd trained two of the hijackers in martial arts.

whered you read that duncan?

[daralharb]

I don't remember where I heard it first but the latest news articles are saying the same thing. He probably helped a pair of terrorists beat up an air crew and indirectly contributed to thousands of deaths. Regardless of the legal niceties, it doesn't take a lawyer to figure out he was working with Al-Qaeda and deserves no mercy from our government, nor individuals who want to take matters into their own hands.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4167221.stm

The US alleged Mr Habib knew in advance of the 11 September attacks and had trained some of the hijackers in martial arts.

Mr Habib's lawyers claimed the confessions were obtained under coercion.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4727883,00.html
The United States has said Habib confessed that he knew in advance of the al-Qaida plot to fly hijacked airliners into buildings

[jeanius]

what makes you so sure that his confessions werent coerced:

>> In a court affidavit, Mr Habib claimed he was tortured in Egypt with beatings, electric shocks and was nearly drowned in late 2001 before being sent to Cuba.

pretty harsh allegations if they are indeed true. although:

>> others there at that time claim he trained with al Qaida.

ehh i guess we'll never know what role mr habib truly played.

[pannadol]

Jean what is your profile picture? It looks like a pair of crusty lips with a crusty tongue poking out but I'm sure it's meant to be some sort of fluffy toy? I'm so confused!

P.S. Come to my going-away party next Friday night! Be there or be Ska-ware! (square :p)

[viking_hero]

Why the fuck aren't they retrospective?

[daralharb]

Because the government doesn't do that, it's considered undemocratic to charge people for things that happened before those things became illegal. I think our government technically *CAN* make retroactive laws but hasn't ever done so (at least in the recent past). The US constituation (amongst those of other nations) doesn't permit it's legislators to enact retroactive laws.

I'm sure Jean knows more about this.

[jeanius]

a retrospective law goes against the whole concept of the rule of law, ie. that the law should be known, that there should be consistency in the law etc etc. i dont think it has much to do with democracy. there is nothing in our constitution prohibiting retrospective laws, but any government which made one would be very unpopular. i doubt the courts would enforce one.

[jeanius]

nicky do you really want to get arrested tomorrow for something you did 3 years ago which you thought was completely legal at the time, pfft!

[daralharb]

Jean:

”what makes you so sure that his confessions werent coerced:

>> In a court affidavit, Mr Habib claimed he was tortured in Egypt with beatings, electric shocks and was nearly drowned in late 2001 before being sent to Cuba.”

Because he's a fucking Al-Qaeda scumbag who has every reason to make that shit up. I bet all they talk about in Guantanamo is the bad press the US has been getting for 'torture' in Guantanamo Bay that's never ONCE been substantiated. Please note that I'm talking about actual torture, not 'severe discomfort' such as sleep depravation and other pansy bullshit.

”nicky do you really want to get arrested tomorrow for something you did 3 years ago which you thought was completely legal at the time, pfft!”

This is why (as Dirty Harry teaches us) occasional vigilante justice is the only way to iron out the inadequacies of a fair and modern legal system.