So this is really interesting. I'd love to say "YAY!" and jump up and down, but I don't actually think that's what this is about. The Log Cabin Republicans pushed this through, in California where they knew they'd have a better chance of doing it.
I smell political ploy of the useless variety. There's already a bill in Congress to get rid of the code, and Gates has said he's not leaving until the mechanisms for disbanding it are in place. We didn't need the lawsuit. It's going to get appealed, and if the Supreme Court has a jot of sense, they won't hear it if it does get up that far. Either way... it's sort of useless. Gratifying to hear, but useless.
And the first amendment rights thing is a damn shaky reason. I mean, I personally agree with it, but legally? That's damn shaky.
So... yay, and I'm sorry for basically raining on your parade, but I'm really not sure this means a damn thing, except for the LC Republicans, and I suspect it won't be what they wanted.
Well for me this isn't thinking it's all downhill from here as much as, a judge stated this is unconstitutional, what a great first step! I kept wanting to make the subject line 'baby syeps' but thought that might be a bit insulting to the whole movement.
I see your point, but over here in stayathomemomville, I didn't know all the particulars :/ Thanks though, I am interested to know that.
Most of that was in the article you linked to? Not the Gates stuff, but that was big headlines weeks ago. *confused*
I'm not trying to imply it's all down hill from here, not at all! I'm not even certain it is. And maybe I'm wrong in how it's going to be spun, but honestly, even if it is taken at face value, this isn't going to lead to instant changing of the laws, or culture. Between appeals, counter appeals, and the actual physical issues that have to be hammered out...
Yeah, I'm back to political shenanigans. And the more I read of the details of the ruling, the less certain I am it'll stand up to an appeal. I agree with it, completely, but I'm not sure how preventing someone from writing a letter home is a truly first amendment violation, since the military does that for other reasons (yeah, I know the difference, of course, I'm just not sure it's strong enough legally)
Being sleepy didn't help me be coherent--I mostly meant I hadn't been following the case, and I kinda skimmed the article as I was on the way to bed. I didn't mean you thought it was downhill; I did not want to look like one of those people who saw one headline and said the work was done, that's all.
That was more about me than your comment, heh. Still I am not making sense!
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I smell political ploy of the useless variety. There's already a bill in Congress to get rid of the code, and Gates has said he's not leaving until the mechanisms for disbanding it are in place. We didn't need the lawsuit. It's going to get appealed, and if the Supreme Court has a jot of sense, they won't hear it if it does get up that far. Either way... it's sort of useless. Gratifying to hear, but useless.
And the first amendment rights thing is a damn shaky reason. I mean, I personally agree with it, but legally? That's damn shaky.
So... yay, and I'm sorry for basically raining on your parade, but I'm really not sure this means a damn thing, except for the LC Republicans, and I suspect it won't be what they wanted.
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I see your point, but over here in stayathomemomville, I didn't know all the particulars :/ Thanks though, I am interested to know that.
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I'm not trying to imply it's all down hill from here, not at all! I'm not even certain it is. And maybe I'm wrong in how it's going to be spun, but honestly, even if it is taken at face value, this isn't going to lead to instant changing of the laws, or culture. Between appeals, counter appeals, and the actual physical issues that have to be hammered out...
Yeah, I'm back to political shenanigans. And the more I read of the details of the ruling, the less certain I am it'll stand up to an appeal. I agree with it, completely, but I'm not sure how preventing someone from writing a letter home is a truly first amendment violation, since the military does that for other reasons (yeah, I know the difference, of course, I'm just not sure it's strong enough legally)
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That was more about me than your comment, heh. Still I am not making sense!
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